Can I stop these somehow? Did not realize I would get so many emails everyday
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Re: Mixed batteries (David via CnC-List) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 17:20:12 -0300 > From: Rich Knowles via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > To: Marek Dziedzic <dziedzi...@hotmail.com>, "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Mixed batteries > Message-ID: <c3db87ca-3042-4223-8b7b-96a9f78cc...@sailpower.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Marek, this is not a money issue. It's merely a way of making sure that all > batteries get due attention and are properly charged. All the people I've > converted to this system have never been stuck for power to start their > engines. > > The rant is just that. A rant. Nothing is really wrong, it's just that > Xantrex assumes we are not all ignorant. > > Rich > >> On May 5, 2014, at 14:52, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List >> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >> Edd, >> >> I am far from being an expert on charging systems, so whatever I say here is >> based on my personal experience and what I have found from others. >> >> The echo charger is a Xantrex device (I bet that others make one like that, >> as well). WM sells it here: >> http://www.westmarine.com/triple-blocks/xantrex--echo-charge-battery-charger?333669; >> Defender here: >> http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|328|2289962|2289976&id=93959 >> (for $10 less). >> >> It seems that it is a device that responds to exactly your issue ? how to >> keep a starting battery charged and separated from the house without any >> overly complex (and costly) dual battery regulators. >> >> Apparently, there is a caveat with it. You may want to read that rant by >> Main Sail: >> http://www.sailnet.com/forums/electrical-systems/72295-xantrex-echo-charger-rant.html. >> There is nothing wrong with the device; only with the instruction manual >> that comes with it. >> >> Btw. Nothing is cheap (as usual with anything boat related). The Echo >> Charger sells for about $120. maybe I should not use the word ?cheap?, >> because I think that this is a cheap insurance. But it is not necessarily a >> ?low cost?. After all, you would be spending $120 plus installation, plus >> rewiring, plus some additional incidental costs in order to save a $100 >> battery or two. >> >> Btw 2. I bet that a few of our (C&C List?s) electrical experts would have to >> say a word or two on the subject. >> >> Marek (in Ottawa). >> >> From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List >> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 1:10 PM >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> Subject: Re: Stus-List Mixed batteries >> >> Marek, >> >> Very interesting. What exactly is an echo charger and how would I connect it? >> >> The previous owner had two house bank 31s and a starter battery hooked up >> parallel to one of them. That starter battery turned out to be dead and was >> dragging the other down. >> >> I replaced all with two new 31s about 4 years ago. Now one of those two is >> dead and I don?t feel like dumping $300 on a replacement when I?m not >> running on batteries for more than a few hours on any given day. >> >> >> All the best, >> >> Edd >> >> >> Edd M. Schillay >> Starship Enterprise >> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B >> City Island, NY >> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log >> >>> On May 5, 2014, at 1:01 PM, Marek Dziedzic <dziedzi...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Edd, >>> >>> I don?t want to start a discussion on how to charge the batteries (as this >>> would be off topic), but starting from the ALL position has some major >>> disadvantages. One is that you might be hiding a problem with your starting >>> battery; two is that if one battery is weak, you would be charging that >>> weak battery from the strong one (you risk that if one is nearly dead, the >>> other would not start the engine, either, but instead would discharge to >>> equalise the voltage with the weak one). >>> >>> No question (in my mind), the best way is to start from the starting >>> battery (hence the name) and have the echo charger making sure that both >>> batteries are charged properly. >>> >>> Some advocate to have the batteries split into ?main? and ?spare?. Many >>> good marine batteries can be used as dual purpose. If you design your >>> system this way, you start on the ?main?, it gets charged by the alternator >>> and the echo charger maintains the ?spare?. >>> >>> If I remember correctly, you have a solar system, as well. Many charge >>> controllers have a dual battery option and they can be setup to charge the >>> ?main? battery first and then charge the ?spare? (mine has a selectable >>> 50/50 or 90/10 split). >>> >>> If you are interested, you can check some of Main Sail?s articles on that >>> topic at Sailboat Owners or at his web site >>> (http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/). >>> >>> Marek (in Ottawa) >>> >>> PS. Would ?may the Force (May the 4th) be with you? apply, even if it is a >>> day late? I know it is mixing the references... >>> >>> From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List >>> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 10:58 AM >>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Mixed batteries >>> >>> Rich, >>> >>> Please do send around a diagram. I?m planning to do something similar ? a >>> 27 starting battery (as battery #2) and a 31 house bank (as battery#1). >>> >>> When I want to start and run the engine, I will do so on ALL. That way the >>> alternator will charge both batteries. When sailing and ?hanging out?, I >>> would switch to 1 only. >>> >>> I have a solar panel and a dual battery regulator, which would connect to >>> both. >>> >>> Two weeks to launch and still much to do?.. >>> >>> >>> >>> All the best, >>> >>> Edd >>> >>> >>> Edd M. Schillay >>> Starship Enterprise >>> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B >>> City Island, NY >>> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log >>> >>>> On May 5, 2014, at 10:38 AM, Rich Knowles via CnC-List >>>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> The best method I have found and the least problematic from all points >>>> of view is to have a dedicated starting battery that does nothing else >>>> but start the engine, and a house battery that can be several batteries in >>>> parallel. Ideally the house batteries will all be identical. I feed the >>>> alternator directly to the house battery and use a device such as a >>>> Xantrex EchoCharge, a small regulator, to keep the start battery charged. >>>> A simple 1/both/2 off switch feeds the house load from either battery and >>>> acts as a combiner switch if needed. I have a diagram I can send you if >>>> you wish. >>>> >>>> I have wired many boats this way with no complaints or incidents. >>>> >>>> Rich Knowles >>>> Indigo. LF38 >>>> Halifax. NS >>>> >>>>> On May 5, 2014, at 10:47, via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> In a pinch, I recently bought a 'starting' battery (Group 27) per my >>>>> earlier post (no marine stores open after 6 on Saturdays) >>>>> >>>>> Then I decided to get a replacement for my dead Lifeline AGM battery. >>>>> >>>>> Of course, Murphy lurking about, I realized that my Zantrex Truecharge 40 >>>>> wants all the batteries it charges to be the same since >>>>> its charging schemes apply to all three outputs to the batteries. >>>>> >>>>> Before I pull the 'rope-a-dope' of returning the starting battery, I need >>>>> some list advice: >>>>> >>>>> A lot of sailors suggest using a 'starting' battery exclusively for >>>>> starting and using the house batteries for the house. I am aware that >>>>> an AGM can be used for starting as well. >>>>> >>>>> However, if a 'starting' battery is better for this job (CCA, etc.) and >>>>> the AGM is better for its job, how does one use a single charger like mine >>>>> to satisfy different charging schemes? >>>>> >>>>> 2 chargers, a smarter charger that has outputs for different battery >>>>> characteristics, or 'forgetaboutit" and charge both batteries as though >>>>> the were both AGMs? >>>>> >>>>> Charlie Nelson >>>>> Water Phantom >>>>> C&C 36 XL/kcb >>>>> >>>>> cenel...@aol.com >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>>>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>>>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140505/603aa11d/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 16:45:06 -0400 > From: "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Mixed batteries > Message-ID: > <1073606396712942aee54d9a960e45a71e25a48...@hq-mb-07.ba.ad.ssa.gov> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > There are any number of ways to wire a boat. I have changed a few things, but > I have always stuck with the principle that I can turn every light on, go > ashore for a few days, and then come back to a dead house battery and hit the > starter button and have the engine start right up and charge both banks > without having to set any switches. The last time we were stuck with a dead > battery was during hurricane Charlie and that was because one of them cracked > and the acid leaked out. > I?ll post how mine are wired tonight sometime. > Joe Della Barba > Coquina > C&C 35 MK I > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rich > Knowles via CnC-List > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 4:20 PM > To: Marek Dziedzic; cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Mixed batteries > > Marek, this is not a money issue. It's merely a way of making sure that all > batteries get due attention and are properly charged. All the people I've > converted to this system have never been stuck for power to start their > engines. > > The rant is just that. A rant. Nothing is really wrong, it's just that > Xantrex assumes we are not all ignorant. > > Rich > > On May 5, 2014, at 14:52, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: > Edd, > > I am far from being an expert on charging systems, so whatever I say here is > based on my personal experience and what I have found from others. > > The echo charger is a Xantrex device (I bet that others make one like that, > as well). WM sells it here: > http://www.westmarine.com/triple-blocks/xantrex--echo-charge-battery-charger?333669; > Defender here: > http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|328|2289962|2289976&id=93959 (for > $10 less). > > It seems that it is a device that responds to exactly your issue ? how to > keep a starting battery charged and separated from the house without any > overly complex (and costly) dual battery regulators. > > Apparently, there is a caveat with it. You may want to read that rant by Main > Sail: > http://www.sailnet.com/forums/electrical-systems/72295-xantrex-echo-charger-rant.html. > There is nothing wrong with the device; only with the instruction manual > that comes with it. > > Btw. Nothing is cheap (as usual with anything boat related). The Echo Charger > sells for about $120. maybe I should not use the word ?cheap?, because I > think that this is a cheap insurance. But it is not necessarily a ?low cost?. > After all, you would be spending $120 plus installation, plus rewiring, plus > some additional incidental costs in order to save a $100 battery or two. > > Btw 2. I bet that a few of our (C&C List?s) electrical experts would have to > say a word or two on the subject. > > Marek (in Ottawa). > > From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 1:10 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Mixed batteries > > Marek, > > Very interesting. What exactly is an echo charger and how would I connect it? > > The previous owner had two house bank 31s and a starter battery hooked up > parallel to one of them. That starter battery turned out to be dead and was > dragging the other down. > > I replaced all with two new 31s about 4 years ago. Now one of those two is > dead and I don?t feel like dumping $300 on a replacement when I?m not running > on batteries for more than a few hours on any given day. > > All the best, > > Edd > > > Edd M. Schillay > Starship Enterprise > C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B > City Island, NY > Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log<http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/> > > On May 5, 2014, at 1:01 PM, Marek Dziedzic > <dziedzi...@hotmail.com<mailto:dziedzi...@hotmail.com>> wrote: > > > Edd, > > I don?t want to start a discussion on how to charge the batteries (as this > would be off topic), but starting from the ALL position has some major > disadvantages. One is that you might be hiding a problem with your starting > battery; two is that if one battery is weak, you would be charging that weak > battery from the strong one (you risk that if one is nearly dead, the other > would not start the engine, either, but instead would discharge to equalise > the voltage with the weak one). > > No question (in my mind), the best way is to start from the starting battery > (hence the name) and have the echo charger making sure that both batteries > are charged properly. > > Some advocate to have the batteries split into ?main? and ?spare?. Many good > marine batteries can be used as dual purpose. If you design your system this > way, you start on the ?main?, it gets charged by the alternator and the echo > charger maintains the ?spare?. > > If I remember correctly, you have a solar system, as well. Many charge > controllers have a dual battery option and they can be setup to charge the > ?main? battery first and then charge the ?spare? (mine has a selectable 50/50 > or 90/10 split). > > If you are interested, you can check some of Main Sail?s articles on that > topic at Sailboat Owners or at his web site > (http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/). > > Marek (in Ottawa) > > PS. Would ?may the Force (May the 4th) be with you? apply, even if it is a > day late? I know it is mixing the references... > > From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 10:58 AM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Mixed batteries > > Rich, > > Please do send around a diagram. I?m planning to do something similar ? a 27 > starting battery (as battery #2) and a 31 house bank (as battery#1). > > When I want to start and run the engine, I will do so on ALL. That way the > alternator will charge both batteries. When sailing and ?hanging out?, I > would switch to 1 only. > > I have a solar panel and a dual battery regulator, which would connect to > both. > > Two weeks to launch and still much to do?.. > > > All the best, > > Edd > > > Edd M. Schillay > Starship Enterprise > C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B > City Island, NY > Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log<http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/> > > On May 5, 2014, at 10:38 AM, Rich Knowles via CnC-List > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: > > > The best method I have found and the least problematic from all points of > view is to have a dedicated starting battery that does nothing else but start > the engine, and a house battery that can be several batteries in parallel. > Ideally the house batteries will all be identical. I feed the alternator > directly to the house battery and use a device such as a Xantrex EchoCharge, > a small regulator, to keep the start battery charged. A simple 1/both/2 off > switch feeds the house load from either battery and acts as a combiner switch > if needed. I have a diagram I can send you if you wish. > > I have wired many boats this way with no complaints or incidents. > > Rich Knowles > Indigo. LF38 > Halifax. NS > > On May 5, 2014, at 10:47, via CnC-List > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: > In a pinch, I recently bought a 'starting' battery (Group 27) per my earlier > post (no marine stores open after 6 on Saturdays) > > Then I decided to get a replacement for my dead Lifeline AGM battery. > > Of course, Murphy lurking about, I realized that my Zantrex Truecharge 40 > wants all the batteries it charges to be the same since > its charging schemes apply to all three outputs to the batteries. > > Before I pull the 'rope-a-dope' of returning the starting battery, I need > some list advice: > > A lot of sailors suggest using a 'starting' battery exclusively for starting > and using the house batteries for the house. I am aware that > an AGM can be used for starting as well. > > However, if a 'starting' battery is better for this job (CCA, etc.) and the > AGM is better for its job, how does one use a single charger like mine > to satisfy different charging schemes? > > 2 chargers, a smarter charger that has outputs for different battery > characteristics, or 'forgetaboutit" and charge both batteries as though > the were both AGMs? > > Charlie Nelson > Water Phantom > C&C 36 XL/kcb > > cenel...@aol.com<mailto:cenel...@aol.com> > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com<http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/> > CnC-List@cnc-list.com<mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com<http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/> > CnC-List@cnc-list.com<mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> > > > ________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com<mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> > > ________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com<mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com<mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140505/d59a797e/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 17:03:34 -0400 > From: David via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > To: CNC CNC <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Mixed batteries > Message-ID: <blu174-w2838079189b0c247bb43e1da...@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > I installed a Balmar Digital Duo. Same as Echo Charger but apparently > without the BS of a poorly written Manual. > > It has been a fool proof system for over 7 years > > David F. Risch > 1981 40-2 > (401) 419-4650 (cell) > > > Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 17:20:12 -0300 > To: dziedzi...@hotmail.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Mixed batteries > From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > Marek, this is not a money issue. It's merely a way of making sure that all > batteries get due attention and are properly charged. All the people I've > converted to this system have never been stuck for power to start their > engines. > The rant is just that. A rant. Nothing is really wrong, it's just that > Xantrex assumes we are not all ignorant. > > Rich > On May 5, 2014, at 14:52, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > Edd, > > I am far from being an expert on charging systems, so whatever I say here > is based on my personal experience and what I have found from others. > > The echo charger is a Xantrex device (I bet that others make one like that, > as well). WM sells it here: > http://www.westmarine.com/triple-blocks/xantrex--echo-charge-battery-charger?333669; > > Defender here: > http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|328|2289962|2289976&id=93959 > (for $10 less). > > It seems that it is a device that responds to exactly your issue ? how to > keep a starting battery charged and separated from the house without any > overly > complex (and costly) dual battery regulators. > > Apparently, there is a caveat with it. You may want to read that rant by > Main Sail: > http://www.sailnet.com/forums/electrical-systems/72295-xantrex-echo-charger-rant.html. > > There is nothing wrong with the device; only with the instruction manual that > comes with it. > > Btw. Nothing is cheap (as usual with anything boat related). The Echo > Charger sells for about $120. maybe I should not use the word ?cheap?, > because I > think that this is a cheap insurance. But it is not necessarily a ?low cost?. > After all, you would be spending $120 plus installation, plus rewiring, plus > some additional incidental costs in order to save a $100 battery or two. > > Btw 2. I bet that a few of our (C&C List?s) electrical experts would > have to say a word or two on the subject. > > Marek (in Ottawa). > > > > > From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 1:10 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Mixed batteries > > Marek, > > > Very > interesting. What exactly is an echo charger and how would I connect it? > > The previous > owner had two house bank 31s and a starter battery hooked up parallel to one > of > them. That starter battery turned out to be dead and was dragging the other > down. > > I replaced all > with two new 31s about 4 years ago. Now one of those two is dead and I don?t > feel like dumping $300 on a replacement when I?m not running on batteries for > more than a few hours on any given day. > > > > > All the best, > > Edd > > > Edd M. > Schillay > Starship > Enterprise > C&C 37+ | > Sail No: NCC-1701-B > City Island, NY > > Starship Enterprise's Captain's > Log > > > On May 5, 2014, at 1:01 PM, Marek Dziedzic <dziedzi...@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > Edd, > > I don?t want to start a discussion on how to charge the batteries (as > this would be off topic), but starting from the ALL position has some major > disadvantages. One is that you might be hiding a problem with your starting > battery; two is that if one battery is weak, you would be charging that weak > battery from the strong one (you risk that if one is nearly dead, the other > would not start the engine, either, but instead would discharge to equalise > the voltage with the weak one). > > No question (in my mind), the best way is to start from the > starting battery (hence the name) and have the echo charger making sure that > both batteries are charged properly. > > Some advocate to have the batteries split into ?main? and ?spare?. Many > good marine batteries can be used as dual purpose. If you design your system > this way, you start on the ?main?, it gets charged by the alternator and the > echo charger maintains the ?spare?. > > If I remember correctly, you have a solar system, as well. Many charge > controllers have a dual battery option and they can be setup to charge the > ?main? battery first and then charge the ?spare? (mine has a selectable > 50/50 > or 90/10 split). > > If you are interested, you can check some of Main Sail?s articles on that > topic at Sailboat Owners or at his web site > (http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/). > > > Marek (in Ottawa) > > PS. Would ?may the Force (May the 4th) be with you? apply, even if it is > a day late? I know it is mixing the references... > > > > > From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 10:58 AM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Mixed batteries > > Rich, > > > Please do send > around a diagram. I?m planning to do something similar ? a 27 starting > battery > (as battery #2) and a 31 house bank (as battery#1). > > When I want to > start and run the engine, I will do so on ALL. That way the alternator will > charge both batteries. When sailing and ?hanging out?, I would switch to 1 > only. > > I have a solar > panel and a dual battery regulator, which would connect to both. > > Two weeks to > launch and still much to do?.. > > > > > > All the best, > > Edd > > > Edd M. > Schillay > Starship > Enterprise > C&C 37+ | > Sail No: NCC-1701-B > City Island, > NY > Starship Enterprise's Captain's > Log > > > On May 5, 2014, at 10:38 AM, Rich Knowles via CnC-List > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: > > > The best method I have found and the least problematic from all points > of view is to have a dedicated starting battery that does nothing else but > start the engine, and a house battery that can be several batteries in > parallel. Ideally the house batteries will all be identical. I feed the > alternator directly to the house battery and use a device such as a > Xantrex > EchoCharge, a small regulator, to keep the start battery charged. A simple > 1/both/2 off switch feeds the house load from either battery and acts as a > combiner switch if needed. I have a diagram I can send you if you wish. > > > I have wired many boats this way with no complaints or incidents. > > > Rich Knowles > Indigo. LF38 > Halifax. NS > > On May 5, 2014, at 10:47, via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: > > > > In a pinch, I recently > bought a 'starting' battery (Group 27) per my earlier post (no marine > stores open after 6 on Saturdays) > > Then I decided to get a replacement for my dead Lifeline AGM > battery. > > Of course, Murphy lurking about, I realized that my Zantrex > Truecharge 40 wants all the batteries it charges to be the same > since > its charging schemes apply to all three outputs to the > batteries. > > Before I pull the 'rope-a-dope' of returning the starting battery, I > need some list advice: > > A lot of sailors suggest using a 'starting' battery exclusively for > starting and using the house batteries for the house. I am aware > that > an AGM can be used for starting as well. > > However, if a 'starting' battery is better for this job (CCA, etc.) > and the AGM is better for its job, how does one use a single charger > like > mine > to satisfy different charging schemes? > > 2 chargers, a smarter charger that has outputs for different battery > characteristics, or 'forgetaboutit" and charge both batteries as > though > the were both AGMs? > > Charlie Nelson > Water Phantom > C&C 36 XL/kcb > > cenel...@aol.com > > _______________________________________________ > This > List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > _______________________________________________ > This > List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by > the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the > C&C Photo > Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140505/fe827beb/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > CnC-List mailing list > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > ------------------------------ > > End of CnC-List Digest, Vol 100, Issue 17 > ***************************************** _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
