Kevin,
Thanks for your help. They should be in by next week's work session.
BTW, does your boat have refrigeration? I looked at Jake's pictures of the
installation on his 35III. His icebox fronts onto his cockpit locker where
ours is caught between the stove and the dinette. I had thought to place the
"guts" in that locker space under the front of the dinette cushion, but the
space is tight and I'm not sure the airflow is sufficient.
Allen
From: Kevin Driscoll
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 12:58 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List LED BULBS IN GENERAL
Allen,
They are 12" long, T-5's ( T5 = 5/8" diameter; T8 = 8/8" or 1" dia). I sent my
order confirmation from Marinebeam to your email, off list.
Kevin Driscoll
Portland, Oregon
503 // 875 // 3493
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:35 AM, allen <allenmi...@earthlink.net> wrote:
Kevin,
How long are our tubes? I might order a few just to see how they work out.
Allen
From: Kevin Driscoll
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 1:39 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List LED BULBS IN GENERAL
Allen,
From one C&C 30 mkII to another, I would not go the route of the Alpen Glow
overhead lights. In my opinion, they may be fine for the older, somewhat more
traditionally designed boats with lots of little teak bits, but the integrated
lights in the headliner of the Robert Ball era boats are integral to the
interior. I would use the Alpenglow reading lamps, which seem nice (though
pretty darn expensive), but I would replace the overheads with something that
fits underneath the diffuser in the headliner.
I've opted for the easy way and bought the Marinebeam led fluorescent
replacement bulbs, which fit into the existing fixtures. We've used them main
cabin, in the head and also the aft cabin on our 30-2 and are quite happy with
them. We've opted for the middle color temperature of the three. I would not go
with the warmest temp. Of course there are other solutions, but this seemed the
most cost effective with a minimal amount of dickering.
The reading lights on the 30-2...well they are kind of cheap and throw a bit
of glare. That is something I consider replacing in time.
Best,
Kevin
Kevin Driscoll
Portland, Oregon
503 // 875 // 3493
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 1:07 PM, allen <allenmi...@earthlink.net> wrote:
Finally got on Septima Thursday last. Wind was howling, but at least there
was no rain. It's imagineering time, so I looked first at the formed areas in
the headliner where the two age fluorescent fixtures reside. I want to replace
them with the Alpenglow LED fixtures you used. The LED units measure 10 X 6 X 2
inches. The openings are 13.5 X 8 X 2 inches. I want to set the LED
fixtures as flush to the headliner as possible for head clearance reasons. I'm
6' 4" and those teak corners look sharp. How did you mount yours so they look
professionally done?
I'm looking to convert to all LED in one fell swoop, the convenience lamps
for the sole, the reading lamps, the head and the nav station gooseneck. Any
other pitfalls I should avoid?
I'm also checking out the group suggestions for refrigeration and took the
measurements for that project too.
Allen Miles
S/V Septima
30-2
Hampton, VA
From: Rick Brass
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 10:32 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List LED BULBS IN GENERAL
I don’t always agree with the things I read in Practical Sailor, but I have
to agree with them that these are about the best interior lights available for
general illumination in your cabin.
I’ve had a low power Alpenglow fluorescent fixture on my 25 for more than a
decade. I like the quality of the illumination, the low power consumption, and
the nice teak fixture. My experience was a large part of the decision to put
two of the LED fixtures on my 38.
All of the fixtures I purchased have high (9W for the fluorescent) and low
(6 or 7W) power for white light, and a separate red light with 2 low power
settings. I habitually leave the lowest power red lights on when sailing at
night so I can find the beer or a snack and move around the cabin without
bumping into things.
Others on the list have other solutions for low power consumption lighting
– and may well have paid less than I did. The LED fixtures were around $130
each. But I spent a half hour or less on the installation process and I don’t
need to worry about a source for spare parts if I ever need them.
I’m quite happy with the lights.
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 5:17 PM
To: CNC CNC
Subject: Re: Stus-List LED BULBS IN GENERAL
Rick,
Do you like the Alpenglows?
David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650 (cell)
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From: rickbr...@earthlink.net
To: capt...@yahoo.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 14:43:16 -0500
Subject: Re: Stus-List LED BULBS IN GENERAL
Alex;
I second Dennis’ recommendation for MarineBeam.com. I have also used
Superbrightleds.com as a source with good results for replacement for
incandescent bulbs in the cabin. And as I’ve said before, I put Alpenglow LED
fixtures in the cabin in place of the OEM fluorescent lights. The only problem
I have had in the 3 or so years I’ve had LED bulbs on the boat has been with
the PAR bulbs that are in the light fixtures containing my steaming and
foredeck lights and my spreader lights. The heat sink on the LED replacement
bulbs is slightly larger than the reflector on the halogen bulbs that came in
the fixture, so the fit isn’t quite right and I need to install the LED bulbs
without the lens that came in the fixture. No failures so far, but I had to go
up and reseat one of the spreader lights last spring before it would go on.
Regarding nav lights, I’m not sure about Transport Canada requirements –
you guys have some regs that seem frickin strange to me. But as far as the USCG
compliance goes you should have no problems.
The USCG requires that the manufacturer use nav lights that comply with
USCG requirements when building the boat. Many light manufacturers will put
something on their fixtures that say they comply with the requirements. But the
USCG neither approves nor disapproves of any light, they only require that the
lights used put out enough lumens to be seen over the range and arc specified
in the ColRegs.
The guy at Marinebeam was really helpful to me when I put LEDs in all my
nav lights. I wanted 5 mile visibility (as for a vessel 65 ft or more), though
the USCG requirement for my boat is only 2 miles. We talked about what fixtures
I had (I recall that you really need to put green LEDs behind green lenses to
meet the requirements because of the temperature/wavelength of the output of
the LEDs) and was able to supply the requested bulbs for everything except
those little red and green “eyeball” fixtures in the stem of the boat, and even
there he was able to supply bulbs to meet the 2 mile requirement.
Rick Brass
Washington, NC
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C.
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 1:14 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List LED BULBS IN GENERAL
Go cheap and buy lots of spares! Or....you could buy quality and do the
job once.
Do what you want but if I was buying replacement LED navigation lights, I'd
buy from marinebeam.com.
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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From: "Della Barba, Joe" <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List LED BULBS IN GENERAL
Tons of cheap LEDs on FleaBay. Some are better than others, but for the
$3-$5 or so per bulb I have got a pretty good hit rate. Note that RUNNING
LIGHTS are a special case, depending on how legal you want to be.
Joe Della Barba
Coquina
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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Alex
Giannelia
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 12:27 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List LED BULBS IN GENERAL
I am now moving into replacing my incandescent bulbs all around with
LED's so is there an economical set of conversion bulbs which use the bases
that will fit the old 12VDC sockets? I read some cases require compliance with
USCG or TRANSPORT CANADA codes.
Alex Giannelia
CC 35-II 1974 to be renamed after re-launch TORONTO, Ontario
ag@@airsensing.com
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