Jim;

My guess is that your prop is under pitched.

My 38 will cruise at hull speed (about 7.3 knots) in flat water at 2500 RPM.
I have a 36HP Universal M35B diesel with 1.76 reduction gear and a 16x10 1/2
two blade prop. Max RPM on my engine is 3000 RPM, and recommended cruising
is at 80% of max, so about 2400.

Many of the early 38s were built with an A4 as a standard engine. The A4 had
no reduction gear, so it turned the prop at a relatively high RPM and used a
prop with a relatively low pitch, something like 7 or 8 inches IIRC. Is it
possible that the previous owner converted to diesel but did not change the
prop for some reason?

You haven't said what prop you have (it may well be stamped on the hub of
the prop), nor what the reduction if the transmission is. Some of use would
also like to know your hull number and where you will be keeping the boat.
There are probably 10 or 12 of us on the list with 38-1s or 38-2s, and maybe
double that number with 38 LFs.

In case you didn't know it, most prop manufacturers have a spot on their
website where you can fill in the particulars of your boat (engine HP and
max RPM, reduction, boat length and displacement, etc) and they will
recommend the optimum prop size. Surprisingly it will vary from manufacturer
to manufacturer, because of slight differences in things like blade shape.
But in most cases the recommendation is intended to get the boat to around
hull speed at 80% of max engine RPM.

Hope this helps.


Rick Brass
Imzadi -1976 C&C 38 mk1 (HIN 047)
la Belle Aurore -1975 C&C 25 mk1
Washington, NC



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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lynch
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 12:54 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Prop adjustments and cruising speeds

I'm the happy new owner of an old 38-2, and I'm wondering if there is
something wrong with my propeller or its pitch. It's a fixed three-blade on
a Westerbeke 27 four-cylinder diesel.
At 3,000 RPMs it only pushes the boat along at 6.0 knots. Seems like too
much exertion for too little return, doesn't it? The engine is strong, the
bottom is freshly painted and the boat is not carrying much extra weight.
With a hull speed over 7 knots, shouldn't it be chugging along at 6.5 knots
or more at 2,500 RPMs?

I'd really appreciate any insights from owners of old 38s, as well as those
of you who've seen the benefits of prop changes and pitch adjustments for
both powering and sailing.

Thanks,

Jim Lynch
Olympia, WA
38-2






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