You only have to buy a chart chip if you want the "expanded" info on marinas, etc. That is, telephone numbers, etc. It comes loaded with charts for navigation. Just hook it up and go sailing.
Mine is interfaced with a SH Matrix AIS so I see the AIS targets. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 7:34 AM, Stevan Plavsa <stevanpla...@gmail.com>wrote: > Rich, I was under the impression that one had to buy chart chips to use > the Standard Horizon. Is that not true? > > Roger, you're on Lake Ontario. It sounds like the charts that come > pre-installed are fine? > > Steve > > > On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 7:23 AM, Rich Knowles <r...@sailpower.ca> wrote: > >> I have had SH chart plotters ever since the first monochrome unit hit the >> market. I consider them to be excellent value for the $$. I generally put >> them up for sale before they die and buy the latest model. Mine is >> installed along with my 23 year old Furuno radar in a small piece of >> cabinetry I built inside the aft cabin. I can see them from the helm and >> the numerical SOG, COG, BTW and DTW is repeated at a now obsolete Raymarine >> Raydata instrument on the binnacle. Works fine for me. >> >> I don't like using laptops on board for navigation as they use way more >> power than dedicated purpose built chart plotters and, while I have an iPad >> and similar devices, the reliability and availability of 12v installed gear >> makes that the gear of choice for me. >> >> I do work part time for The Binnacle and the Boat Show is on this week. >> Good pricing on all our electronics. Check the web. >> >> Damn. I'm shameless!! >> >> Rich Knowles >> INDIGO LF38 >> Halifax NS >> Land of the Interminable Winter. >> >> On Feb 20, 2014, at 7:37, "Roger Ware" <w...@qed.econ.queensu.ca> wrote: >> >> Rich, I bought one of these at that price, and it is waiting for >> installation in the Spring. I had one before, they are excellent units. And >> BTW - they have preinstalled chart data, so gone is the era when you have >> to get ripped off buying a $300 chart chip as well as the GPS. Don't get >> me wrong, I love the iPad, but it doesn't do everything. >> >> >> >> Roger, Kingston >> >> >> >> *From:* CnC-List >> [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com<cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] >> *On Behalf Of *Rich Knowles >> *Sent:* February-19-14 11:57 AM >> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Navigation Software >> >> >> >> A Standard Horizon CP190i is available for less than $400, is waterproof >> and very reliable. See binnacle.com. >> >> Rich >> >> >> On Feb 19, 2014, at 11:53, Stevan Plavsa <stevanpla...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> The problem with an expensive helm mounted chart plotter is that it'll be >> old news in a few years. I'm not keen on spending ~$1500 or more on a chart >> plotter that will be "old tech" a few years from now. The iPad does so much >> more than navigation and is half the price. Sure, you can't read it easily >> in sunlight and it's not waterproof .. I can buy two iPads for the price of >> a raymarine plotter though. And I can take the iPad home and do all sorts >> of other things with it (primarily reading sailing magazines with Zinio) >> but I digress... >> >> >> >> I'de like to have a plotter, or some kind of multi-display unit at the >> helm but the prices on them aren't justified in my opinion. I am making the >> same thing using OpenCPN, a laptop and likely the Standard Horizon GX2200 >> for GPS and AIS info for the laptop. I already have the laptop, OpenCPN is >> free (and good!) so I'll only be spending the $350 on the AIS/GPS capable >> VHF radio.... vs $1500 for the same functionality at the helm? I can't >> justify that. >> >> >> >> If the technology was more modular, ie; the multidisplay had proper >> buttons and was really *JUST* a display and interface I'de be more >> interested. $1500 is a lot to spend on what is essentially a touch screen >> monitor .. except it's not is it? It's a raymarine/garmin/sh whizbang that >> isn't upgradable and will essentially suck compared to the new stuff in 5 >> years. Oh yeah,and charts are really expensive too. I happily paid $50 for >> navionics with charts for all of North America!!! Charts that get updated! >> Give me a waterproof, sun viewable iPad type device that uses open >> protocols that i can mount at the helm and I'de gladly spend $1500 on it. >> All I need is a display and an interface (buttons *and* touch, but don't >> take my buttons away). A computer is a computer is a computer.... >> >> >> >> There are nice plotters that I would like to have, it's just a question >> of value for the money. My boat bucks are needed elsewhere. >> >> >> >> Steve >> >> Suhana, C&C 32 >> >> Toronto >> >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Roger Ware <w...@qed.econ.queensu.ca> >> wrote: >> >> I have an iPad with Navionics but still find some shortcomings (a) the >> software doesn't do very much except tell you where you are (b) the iPad is >> not sunlight readable and (c) not waterproof. I am a bit surprised by the >> level of enthusiasm among this expert group - surely a purpose built helm >> mounted chartplotter still dominates? >> >> >> >> Cheers, Roger Ware >> >> Kingston, Ontario >> >> Waiting for Spring, or at least a break in this miserable Winter >> >> >> >> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Andrew >> Burton >> *Sent:* February-19-14 9:50 AM >> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> >> >> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Navigation Software >> >> >> >> On deliveries I use every piece of equipment available. On my own boat, I >> have radar and an old plotter. On both the iPad is my go-to nav unit. On my >> boat, when I'm anchored and in my bunk I can instantly check whether I'm >> dragging with a glance at my iPad. On deliveries, when I'm off watch, I can >> check on what course and speed the watch on deck is able to maintain. I >> also carry a very basic hand-held GPS as back up and almost all boats I get >> on have at least a hard-wired GPS aboard and most have a plotter. >> >> Andy >> >> C&C 40 >> >> Peregrine >> >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Richard N. Bush <bushma...@aol.com> >> wrote: >> >> Andrew, I note your comment about using the ipad for navigation; do you >> also use some type of MPS or chartplotter on your personal boat? and if so, >> how is it used in conjunction with the ipad? On deliveries, do you use >> the boat's navigation equipment? Or just your personal ipad? Thanks >> >> Richard >> >> 1985 37 CB (sunshine and 60 degrees-snow is melting!) >> >> Richard N. Bush Law Offices >> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite 9 >> Louisville, Kentucky 40220 >> 502-584-7255 >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Andrew Burton <a.burton.sai...@gmail.com> >> To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> Sent: Wed, Feb 19, 2014 9:17 am >> Subject: Re: Stus-List Navigation Software >> >> I use iNavX on my ipad and haven't actually pulled out a paper chart in >> more than two years (15,000 miles). I still carry the paper charts but >> haven't used 'em. It's the only plotter I use on my boat. >> >> Andy >> >> C&C 40 >> >> Peregrine >> >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 8:43 AM, Nonpareil Racing < >> t...@nonpareilracing.com> wrote: >> >> Steve et al, >> Have you considered using an ipad with Navionics or another brand of >> software? >> >> Tom Anderson >> C&C 32 Nonpareil >> Marblehead MA >> 81 days to launch >> 9 days to BVI cruise >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Andrew Burton >> 61 W Narragansett Ave >> Newport, RI >> USA 02840 >> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ >> phone +401 965 5260 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Andrew Burton >> 61 W Narragansett Ave >> Newport, RI >> USA 02840 >> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ >> phone +401 965 5260 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > >
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