Hi Dennis,

A comment regarding "Increased fuel economy? - Maybe"
With both engines properly maintained... the only situation of not having increased fuel economy is if acquiring gasoline at nearly half the price of diesel. The reasons are twofold, diesel engines are inherently more efficient due to higher compression ratio and diesel fuel is 15% heavier than gasoline so each unit contains more hydrocarbons.

A third factor in sailboat fuel efficiency is the size of wheel you swing in the water. As you mentioned below, the direct drive A4 propeller is too small to be useful in a chop.

For the above reasons I changed out the A4 to a used diesel and fitted a 16" KiwiProp . In part due to long motoring sessions sometimes required when cruising our coast and needing to transit 75 miles and get back to work on time. (I know, that in itself is overated :) My fuel consumption went from 4 litres per hour to less than 2 litres per hour @ 5+ knots and I don't drop to 3.5 knots in the chop.

        Cheers, Russ
        Sweet 35 mk-1



At 04:37 PM 29/01/2014, you wrote:

Explosivity of gasoline? - No
Increased fuel economy? - Maybe
Torque/horsepower? - Yes

The AT4 is rated at 28-30 hp at nearly 3000 rpm. The AT4 torque/hp curve is fairly steep. That is, at 1400 rpm, the AT4 is only generating 12 hp or so. At 2400 rpm, it's about 20 hp. Torque follows hp closely.

Most marine AT4's have a 1:1 tranny. That means, in order to generate 30 hp, the prop is spinning at 3000 rpm. That's why AT4 props are usually pitched around 6. Exclusive of the Indogo prop which has a somewhat flexible pitch, at 3000 rpm in heavy seas, most likely, the prop will be cavitating and not efficiently transferring the horsepower to the water.

On the other hand, diesel torque curves are fairly flat. A Universal 25XPB reaches max torque at 2000 rpm. With a 2:1 reduction tranny, the prop is only spinning 1000 rpm. Diesel props are pitched around 14-15. You get a lot more bite with a higher pitch prop.

In practical terms, imagine you are punching into 2-4 foot seas. With an AT4, you might make 2-3 knots and a LOT of bubbles. (Been there, done that. Touche' had an AT4 when I bought it.) With a diesel, you might be making 4-5 knots. BIG difference.

Let me relate another experience. One day we were struggling against 20-25 knots and 1-2 foot seas in Touche' (35-1) with the AT4. We were making 2-3 knots. My friend came by us in his 35-1. He was making 5-6 knots. His 35-1 had a Universal 25 XPB with a 14 x 14 2 blade folding Martec prop. Even with the folding prop, he was waaay faster than us.

After I repowered Touche' I had to motor off a lee shore in a tropical storm. 45 knots and 2-3 foot seas. I cringe at the thought of having to do that with an AT4.

Before the repower, I had to carry extra fuel or stop halfway to refuel on my way to Pensacola from Lake Pontchartrain. Now I can make it all the way motoring if I don't run hard.

Please don't take me wrong. I like the AT4. I respect the AT4. I've owned 2 of them. I think it's a great engine for motoring in and out of a harbor. I don't think it's a great engine for certain white knuckle situations or for motoring long distances.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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