Gary, 

My 38 mk1 has a Universal 4-cyl 36 HP engine with the exhaust on the port
side of the engine, so the geography of my installation may be a bit
different than yours.  But here goes.

There is no room on the port side of the engine compartment aft of the
engine. The location of the fuel tank and the proximity of the coupling and
shaft make access to what space is there very much a problem. The PO had
converted from the original A4 to a Universal diesel, and cut several
corners in the process which caused the engine to sieze and caused me to
replace it back in 2010 (with another M35B, but that is a different story.)

Because the boat had originally had an A4, the exhaust port in the transom
was 1 1/2" diameter. The PO also used 1 1/2" hose from the muffler aft to
the exhaust port. The original consequence of the situation was that exhaust
pressure would spray a rooster tail of water behind the boat, and I was
constantly getting calls on the VHF from other boats telling me about it.
After a few months, I put a hose elbow on the outside of the exhaust. There
was still spray that got blown into the boat going downwind, but at least no
roostertail.

When I replaced the engine, I decided to do the exhaust according to the
engine manufacturer's recommendations. So there is a 2" riser/mixing elbow
on the exhaust manifold. The 2" hose goes from the port side of the engine,
behind the heat exchanger, to the starboard side of the engine compartment
where is connects to a Vernalift muffler mounted near the through hull for
the engine cooling water.

A 2" hose comes vertically out of the muffler and is clamped into the
forward inside corner of the cockpit lazarette on the starboard side. Just
below the lid ( and close to 4 feet above the waterline) is an elbow that
takes the hose aft and sloping downward toward the stern. The hose is pretty
stiff and needs only about 2 clamps to keep it secure and out of the way of
access into the lazarette.

The exhaust port in the transom had been in the category of minor PITA for
years, so I decided to take it out altogether. In its place I put a 2"
stainless exhaust port (with a stainless flapper valve that is normally
closed to prevent waves/water from coming back into the exhaust hose) about
12" above the waterline and under the curve of the transom. That greatly
simplifies hose routing and access. Plus now I don't have exhaust and water
shooting aft into the dinghy when I tow it. Bought the port on EBay for
around $50.

If you are interested, I can send photos of the installation to you off
list.

Regarding access to the area inside the transom. On my boat there is a stern
ladder and stern light in the transom, plus the old exhaust outlet. The PO
had put 6" Beckson access ports in the aft bulkhead of the cockpit to
provide access to the inside of the transom. As part of my refit, I opened
up the area on either side of the stiffener to which the backstay is
attached and installed two larger rectangular Beckson hatches that are about
12" x 16" and give a 10x14 opening on each side. I have some Pfeiffertex
material normally used for tramps on small catamarans, and one of the
projects for the spring will be to install a net from the aft end of the
cockpit sole to the transom so the area under the aft deck can be used for
storage of spare lines, fenders, and other oddments.

I was aboard another 38 in the Elizabeth City, NC area where an owner had
removed an area about 3 feet wide and 30" tall from the aft bulkhead of the
cockpit, and installed a removable panel in its place. It was a nifty means
of access to the area inside the transom and also large enough to get down
inside for access to the steering quadrant.

BTW, if you or anyone else is interested, I have two new mufflers I would be
willing to sell very cheaply. One is a compact Vernalift about 7" diameter
by 7" tall with 2" top in and top out. The other is a Vetus waterlock
muffler with both 1 1/2" and 2" in and out ports that can be turned to
almost any angle from horizontal to vertical. If anyone needs a muffler,
make me an offer.


Rick Brass
Washington, NC



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yesterday I picked up a new mixing elbow assembly for our yanmar 3gm30. The
old one was just about closed up with rusty carbon and crud I'm surprised
the engine worked at all !  The next thing on the list is the flex hose that
goes from the water muffler to the transom. I'm not to sure about trying to
wiggle all the way back there you know it has to be a 2 way trip ! Has
anyone been down this road before and if so any advice ? Liberty is a 38
foot Mark I and it looks as though the transom is about 42 feet in back of
the rudder shaft.

                                                       Gary Kolc

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