Curtis I know you've got crew and apparently quite capable crew but of you'd 
like another crew with local knowledge I can come down and sail out with you. 
We kept our 33 in Savh for 2 yrs before moving her to Chas and sailed/raced 
around your neck of the water several times.  I would prefer to sail in like 
March maybe ? Brrrrr.  

Barbara Hickson Fellers

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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2014 16:06:43 -0400
> From: Robert Abbott <robertabb...@eastlink.ca>
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Stus-List single handed docking
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> On 2014/01/06 12:03 PM, Joel Aronson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I've seen them in Bacon's.  Never was willing to spend $100 + 
>> on it.  Can you use it to drop a line over a piling?
> 
> Simple answer is yes...but if you have a regular 'boat hook', and many 
> of us do, you can drop a line over a piling with that to! Then you don't 
> need one of these.
> 
> Our marina system is 'slip based' with 'cleats', usually three (3) per 
> 'slip' so this 'docking tool' can be very effective....you simply extend 
> it and drop the loop over a cleat and pull.....I have used it a few 
> times and it reduced the stress from single handed docking.
> 
> Our boat came with a bimini....if it didn't, would a bimini be one of 
> the first things I would buy as an upgrade....not likely....but now that 
> I have experienced one, I would not go without one....it works in good 
> weather and bad weather.   This 'docking tool' (whatever it is called) 
> would I buy one, well now that I have one and used it, yep, for +$100 to 
> make my docking(s) as stress free as possible, it's worth it.  And $100 
> won't buy much in the way of gelcoat repair on your boat, or someone's 
> elses.
> 
>> Rob Abbott
>> AZURA
>> C&C 32 -84
>> Halifax, N.S.
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Robert Abbott 
>> <robertabb...@eastlink.ca <mailto:robertabb...@eastlink.ca>> wrote:
>> 
>>    On Dwight's C&C 27 during Chester Race Week, we had a 'big
>>    audience' on the dock watch us sail up to the dock to let a crew
>>    member off.... I was the 'crew' that stepped off.
>>    The big audience was so impressed with what we did that day that
>>    we got an applause.....we looked like we actually knew what we
>>    were doing.
>> 
>>    I have a piece of 'docking gear' (for the lack of a better term as
>>    I don't know what the actual name of it is) that is very useful
>>    for docking......it was on the boat when we bought it.....and I
>>    have never seen another one.
>> 
>>    It is an aluminum extension pole with a large rubber loop (say 10"
>>    to 12" in diameter) on one end and a double-ended jagged plastic
>>    hook on the other end.  When docking, I always have it at the
>>    ready just in case.....the rubber loop end can be used to grab a
>>    dock cleat from anywhere on the boat to pull the boat into the
>>    dock.....like having a line from the boat to the dock ......the
>>    other end can be used for the same purpose but in different
>>    circumstances.   It is quite a useful and versatile 'docking tool'
>>    and just having it at the ready is assuring no matter if you are
>>    alone or have crew.
>> 
>>    Has anyone else seen one of these or have one?
>> 
>>    Rob Abbott
>>    AZURA
>>    C&C 32 -84
>>    Halifax, N.S.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>    On 2014/01/05 5:46 PM, dwight wrote:
>> 
>>        I like to do it the way Capt Ron did it...bring her in fast,
>>        turn sharp and
>>        stop her on a dime, jump off and deal with the lines, but alas
>>        I am older
>>        now and can jump nearly as good...we've done it under sail
>>        power a few times
>>        to...once we off loaded a crew coming up alongside under sail,
>>        got a push
>>        off as soon as he stepped off and sailed away...came head to
>>        wind off port
>>        tack and the push sent us flying on starboard...Bob may still
>>        remember that
>>        sail during Chester Race week back in our younger dys when I
>>        had the C&C 27
>> 
>>        -----Original Message-----
>>        From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
>>        <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] On Behalf Of Wally
>>        Bryant
>>        Sent: January 5, 2014 12:17 PM
>>        To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>>        Subject: Re: Stus-List single handed docking
>> 
>>        Perhaps the most important thing is to make sure no one is
>>        watching.  If
>>        there's no one watching, you will do it perfectly.  If you
>>        have a big
>>        audience, it'll be a train wreck.  <VBG>
>> 
>>        In addition to the other tips already mentioned, I like to
>>        stop the boat
>>        completely in the fairway or near the dock.  That gives me a
>>        chance to
>>        evaluate the breeze and tidal currents, and compensate when
>>        approaching
>>        the dock.  I also believe in the GO SLOW method. Sometimes a tidal
>>        current can give you a knot or two, and you think you're going
>>        slow but
>>        in fact are at a dead stop and can't steer the boat.  That
>>        sucks.  So
>>        coming to a complete stop away from the dock can give you a clue.
>> 
>>        Another thing...  Practice on a mooring ball or buoy in clear
>>        water.
>>        Try to bring the boat to a complete stop with the bow touching the
>>        mooring ball and the hull lined up different points on shore.
>> 
>>        Wal
>> 
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>>>>>>>> On 2014/01/06 12:03 PM, Joel Aronson wrote:
>> I've seen them in Bacon's.  Never was willing to spend $100 + on it. 
>> Can you use it to drop a line over a piling?
> 
> Simple answer is yes...but if you have a regular 'boat hook', and many 
> of us do, you can drop a line over a piling with that to!
> 
> Our marina system is 'slip based' with 'cleats', usually three (3) per 
> 'slip' so this 'docking tool' can be very effective....you simply extend 
> it and drop the loop over a cleat and pull.....I have used it a few 
> times and it reduced the stress from single handed docking.
> 
> Our boat came with a bimini....if it didn't, would a bimini be one of 
> the first things I would buy as an upgrade....not likely....but now that 
> I have experienced one, I would not go without one....it works in good 
> weather and bad weather.   This 'docking tool' (whatever it is called) 
> would I buy one, well now that I have one and used it, yep, for +$100 to 
> make my docking(s) as stress free as possible, it's worth it.  And $100 
> won't buy much in the way of gelcoat repair on your boat, or someone's 
> elses.
> 
>> Rob Abbott
>> AZURA
>> C&C 32 -84
>> Halifax, N.S.
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Robert Abbott 
>> <robertabb...@eastlink.ca <mailto:robertabb...@eastlink.ca>> wrote:
>> 
>>    On Dwight's C&C 27 during Chester Race Week, we had a 'big
>>    audience' on the dock watch us sail up to the dock to let a crew
>>    member off.... I was the 'crew' that stepped off.
>>    The big audience was so impressed with what we did that day that
>>    we got an applause.....we looked like we actually knew what we
>>    were doing.
>> 
>>    I have a piece of 'docking gear' (for the lack of a better term as
>>    I don't know what the actual name of it is) that is very useful
>>    for docking......it was on the boat when we bought it.....and I
>>    have never seen another one.
>> 
>>    It is an aluminum extension pole with a large rubber loop (say 10"
>>    to 12" in diameter) on one end and a double-ended jagged plastic
>>    hook on the other end.  When docking, I always have it at the
>>    ready just in case.....the rubber loop end can be used to grab a
>>    dock cleat from anywhere on the boat to pull the boat into the
>>    dock.....like having a line from the boat to the dock ......the
>>    other end can be used for the same purpose but in different
>>    circumstances.   It is quite a useful and versatile 'docking tool'
>>    and just having it at the ready is assuring no matter if you are
>>    alone or have crew.
>> 
>>    Has anyone else seen one of these or have one?
>> 
>>    Rob Abbott
>>    AZURA
>>    C&C 32 -84
>>    Halifax, N.S.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>    On 2014/01/05 5:46 PM, dwight wrote:
>> 
>>        I like to do it the way Capt Ron did it...bring her in fast,
>>        turn sharp and
>>        stop her on a dime, jump off and deal with the lines, but alas
>>        I am older
>>        now and can jump nearly as good...we've done it under sail
>>        power a few times
>>        to...once we off loaded a crew coming up alongside under sail,
>>        got a push
>>        off as soon as he stepped off and sailed away...came head to
>>        wind off port
>>        tack and the push sent us flying on starboard...Bob may still
>>        remember that
>>        sail during Chester Race week back in our younger dys when I
>>        had the C&C 27
>> 
>>        -----Original Message-----
>>        From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
>>        <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] On Behalf Of Wally
>>        Bryant
>>        Sent: January 5, 2014 12:17 PM
>>        To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>>        Subject: Re: Stus-List single handed docking
>> 
>>        Perhaps the most important thing is to make sure no one is
>>        watching.  If
>>        there's no one watching, you will do it perfectly.  If you
>>        have a big
>>        audience, it'll be a train wreck.  <VBG>
>> 
>>        In addition to the other tips already mentioned, I like to
>>        stop the boat
>>        completely in the fairway or near the dock.  That gives me a
>>        chance to
>>        evaluate the breeze and tidal currents, and compensate when
>>        approaching
>>        the dock.  I also believe in the GO SLOW method. Sometimes a tidal
>>        current can give you a knot or two, and you think you're going
>>        slow but
>>        in fact are at a dead stop and can't steer the boat.  That
>>        sucks.  So
>>        coming to a complete stop away from the dock can give you a clue.
>> 
>>        Another thing...  Practice on a mooring ball or buoy in clear
>>        water.
>>        Try to bring the boat to a complete stop with the bow touching the
>>        mooring ball and the hull lined up different points on shore.
>> 
>>        Wal
>> 
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>> On 2014/01/06 12:03 PM, Joel Aronson wrote:
>> I've seen them in Bacon's.  Never was willing to spend $100 + on it. 
>> Can you use it to drop a line over a piling?
>> 
>> Joel
>> Annapolis
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Robert Abbott 
>> <robertabb...@eastlink.ca <mailto:robertabb...@eastlink.ca>> wrote:
>> 
>>    On Dwight's C&C 27 during Chester Race Week, we had a 'big
>>    audience' on the dock watch us sail up to the dock to let a crew
>>    member off.... I was the 'crew' that stepped off.
>>    The big audience was so impressed with what we did that day that
>>    we got an applause.....we looked like we actually knew what we
>>    were doing.
>> 
>>    I have a piece of 'docking gear' (for the lack of a better term as
>>    I don't know what the actual name of it is) that is very useful
>>    for docking......it was on the boat when we bought it.....and I
>>    have never seen another one.
>> 
>>    It is an aluminum extension pole with a large rubber loop (say 10"
>>    to 12" in diameter) on one end and a double-ended jagged plastic
>>    hook on the other end.  When docking, I always have it at the
>>    ready just in case.....the rubber loop end can be used to grab a
>>    dock cleat from anywhere on the boat to pull the boat into the
>>    dock.....like having a line from the boat to the dock ......the
>>    other end can be used for the same purpose but in different
>>    circumstances.   It is quite a useful and versatile 'docking tool'
>>    and just having it at the ready is assuring no matter if you are
>>    alone or have crew.
>> 
>>    Has anyone else seen one of these or have one?
>> 
>>    Rob Abbott
>>    AZURA
>>    C&C 32 -84
>>    Halifax, N.S.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>    On 2014/01/05 5:46 PM, dwight wrote:
>> 
>>        I like to do it the way Capt Ron did it...bring her in fast,
>>        turn sharp and
>>        stop her on a dime, jump off and deal with the lines, but alas
>>        I am older
>>        now and can jump nearly as good...we've done it under sail
>>        power a few times
>>        to...once we off loaded a crew coming up alongside under sail,
>>        got a push
>>        off as soon as he stepped off and sailed away...came head to
>>        wind off port
>>        tack and the push sent us flying on starboard...Bob may still
>>        remember that
>>        sail during Chester Race week back in our younger dys when I
>>        had the C&C 27
>> 
>>        -----Original Message-----
>>        From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
>>        <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] On Behalf Of Wally
>>        Bryant
>>        Sent: January 5, 2014 12:17 PM
>>        To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>>        Subject: Re: Stus-List single handed docking
>> 
>>        Perhaps the most important thing is to make sure no one is
>>        watching.  If
>>        there's no one watching, you will do it perfectly.  If you
>>        have a big
>>        audience, it'll be a train wreck.  <VBG>
>> 
>>        In addition to the other tips already mentioned, I like to
>>        stop the boat
>>        completely in the fairway or near the dock.  That gives me a
>>        chance to
>>        evaluate the breeze and tidal currents, and compensate when
>>        approaching
>>        the dock.  I also believe in the GO SLOW method. Sometimes a tidal
>>        current can give you a knot or two, and you think you're going
>>        slow but
>>        in fact are at a dead stop and can't steer the boat.  That
>>        sucks.  So
>>        coming to a complete stop away from the dock can give you a clue.
>> 
>>        Another thing...  Practice on a mooring ball or buoy in clear
>>        water.
>>        Try to bring the boat to a complete stop with the bow touching the
>>        mooring ball and the hull lined up different points on shore.
>> 
>>        Wal
>> 
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> On 2014/01/06 12:03 PM, Joel Aronson wrote:
>>>>>>>> I've seen them in Bacon's.  Never was willing to spend $100 + on 
>> it.  Can you use it to drop a line over a piling?
>> 
>> Can't see any reason why not, but a simple 'boat hook' and half the 
>> price can do the same thing....'drop a line over a piling'.
> The marina system at our club has 'slips or fingers' (whatever they are 
> called) with 'cleats', usually three (3) per slip, that this gismo can 
> be very helpful in docking....stand on your boat, loop a cleat and 
> pull......  Now that I have experienced one, wouldn't be without one on 
> the boat (PS boat came with it, I didn't buy it)
> 
> $100 won't buy a lot of gelcoat repair on your boat or some one's 
> else(s).....it's all just boat bucks!
> 
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C&C 32 - 84
> Halifax, N.S.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Robert Abbott 
>> <robertabb...@eastlink.ca <mailto:robertabb...@eastlink.ca>> wrote:
>> 
>>    On Dwight's C&C 27 during Chester Race Week, we had a 'big
>>    audience' on the dock watch us sail up to the dock to let a crew
>>    member off.... I was the 'crew' that stepped off.
>>    The big audience was so impressed with what we did that day that
>>    we got an applause.....we looked like we actually knew what we
>>    were doing.
>> 
>>    I have a piece of 'docking gear' (for the lack of a better term as
>>    I don't know what the actual name of it is) that is very useful
>>    for docking......it was on the boat when we bought it.....and I
>>    have never seen another one.
>> 
>>    It is an aluminum extension pole with a large rubber loop (say 10"
>>    to 12" in diameter) on one end and a double-ended jagged plastic
>>    hook on the other end.  When docking, I always have it at the
>>    ready just in case.....the rubber loop end can be used to grab a
>>    dock cleat from anywhere on the boat to pull the boat into the
>>    dock.....like having a line from the boat to the dock ......the
>>    other end can be used for the same purpose but in different
>>    circumstances.   It is quite a useful and versatile 'docking tool'
>>    and just having it at the ready is assuring no matter if you are
>>    alone or have crew.
>> 
>>    Has anyone else seen one of these or have one?
>> 
>>    Rob Abbott
>>    AZURA
>>    C&C 32 -84
>>    Halifax, N.S.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>    On 2014/01/05 5:46 PM, dwight wrote:
>> 
>>        I like to do it the way Capt Ron did it...bring her in fast,
>>        turn sharp and
>>        stop her on a dime, jump off and deal with the lines, but alas
>>        I am older
>>        now and can jump nearly as good...we've done it under sail
>>        power a few times
>>        to...once we off loaded a crew coming up alongside under sail,
>>        got a push
>>        off as soon as he stepped off and sailed away...came head to
>>        wind off port
>>        tack and the push sent us flying on starboard...Bob may still
>>        remember that
>>        sail during Chester Race week back in our younger dys when I
>>        had the C&C 27
>> 
>>        -----Original Message-----
>>        From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
>>        <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] On Behalf Of Wally
>>        Bryant
>>        Sent: January 5, 2014 12:17 PM
>>        To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>>        Subject: Re: Stus-List single handed docking
>> 
>>        Perhaps the most important thing is to make sure no one is
>>        watching.  If
>>        there's no one watching, you will do it perfectly.  If you
>>        have a big
>>        audience, it'll be a train wreck.  <VBG>
>> 
>>        In addition to the other tips already mentioned, I like to
>>        stop the boat
>>        completely in the fairway or near the dock.  That gives me a
>>        chance to
>>        evaluate the breeze and tidal currents, and compensate when
>>        approaching
>>        the dock.  I also believe in the GO SLOW method. Sometimes a tidal
>>        current can give you a knot or two, and you think you're going
>>        slow but
>>        in fact are at a dead stop and can't steer the boat.  That
>>        sucks.  So
>>        coming to a complete stop away from the dock can give you a clue.
>> 
>>        Another thing...  Practice on a mooring ball or buoy in clear
>>        water.
>>        Try to bring the boat to a complete stop with the bow touching the
>>        mooring ball and the hull lined up different points on shore.
>> 
>>        Wal
>> 
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> From: dwight veinot <dwight...@gmail.com>
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some
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> Curtis
> 
> Count on taking more time?averaging about 6 in a C&C 30 may be wishful?are
> you steaming all the way or sailing?Hope your motor is reliable and
> strong?if you get your first big trip figured out that good before hand I
> would say you have a career ahead in sailing?will this be alone or with crew
> 
> 
> Dwight Veinot
> Alianna
> C&C 35 MKII
> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Curtis <cpt.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> So I'm as some of you know in the process of moving to the next step in my
>> training. I'm in the planing stages of my first over-night near shore
>> passage. I will leave early am: 4:00 with a full moon to help and head out
>> to the "R 4" F1 R4s @ 32-05,901"N  080-35,099W this is the channel into
>> Port Royal sound Beaufort SC.
>> I intend to sail out with the tide its a 19 mile ride I figure 5.5 knots
>> of speed? That will put me there at Day break or just after 3.45 hrs.
>> Then run straight east for 5nm to 32-029'899N  080-29'988 W That will take
>> a nother 90 min,
>> Here, I will turn south to 32-03,997W 080-29'167W 1.92 miles = 34min
>> Here i will turn back west to 32-03'984W 080-34'965w this 4.92 leg take
>> .89 min
>> Then I will turn North to will bring me the 4.92 nm back to to the "R 4"
>> F1 R4s @ 32-05,901"N  080-35,099W the bell marker at the mouth of the
>> channel. Then my hope will be to take the the Tide back in.
>> So here is the question." If I do this near shore how much will the tide
>> effect my timing in the course: I plugged in the 5.5 based off motor speed.
>> All together time from the dock and back to the dock. 10.956 hours to
>> cover 60.26nm
>> How much time will the tide cost me off shore? I know a bought the tide in
>> and out of the river. Just need help with the offshore expectation?
>> Thanks again. let me know if you need more information.
>> LT
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> From: Pierre Tremblay <tremblay.pie...@yahoo.ca>
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Under deck windlass installation.
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> This is exactly what the PO did on my C&C 38-3. I will look if I have picture 
> of the installation.
> 
> Pierre Tremblay
> Avalanche, #54988
> C&C 38-3, WK
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> De?: Dave Godwin <dave.god...@me.com>
> ??: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> Envoy? le : lundi 6 janvier 2014 15h02
> Objet?: Stus-List Under deck windlass installation.
> 
> 
> So, it?s winter and I?m getting back to refitting (restoration is probably a 
> better word now after letting her go so long) Ronin and am working on 
> shed/inside type jobs. I bought a Lewmar Pro-Series 1000 horizontal windlass. 
> Right now I?ve taken a bunch of measurements and I am doing some rough 
> drawings for mounting it inside the anchor locker, on a shelf bonded to the 
> bulkhead and just under the anchor locker cover. Right off the bat it seems 
> doable. Chain angle from the bow-roller is within tolerances; the chain/rode 
> runs true when the windlass is offset to starboard and there is just enough 
> chain-fall (~21?) to meet the manufacturer?s requirements.
> 
> So, has anyone with a same or similar sized C&C done something like this? 
> Thoughts, pictures, links or just general ?Be afraid!? comments?
> 
> Cheers,
> Dave
> 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
> Reedville - Chesapeake? Bay
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> From: dwight veinot <dwight...@gmail.com>
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some
>    Guidance"
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> Curtis
> 
> Remember, the ocean deserves a very healthy level of respect.  I grew up in
> a fishing town, Lunenburg, Nova Scotia.  The hundresd of names of family
> members lost at sea and now carved in stone serve to remind me.  Those were
> good men and experienced sailors we lost.
> 
> I have read your posts and the questions you have brought to this list for
> a quite a while now. I know nothing else about you but:
> 
> I sense a bit much "daring" and less than enough "caring" in your level of
> respect for the ocean...it hardly ever is what you expect before you leave
> port, changes happen fast sometimes
> 
> Dwight Veinot
> Alianna
> C&C 35 MKII
> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Curtis <cpt.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I have sailed this area for the last 2 years. I know the sound very well.
>> I have crossed the sound 4 or 5 times in foul weather. I have no intention
>> of challenging the weather "YET". I only want to start the training
>> offshore. Straight out and back again.  maybe 5 or 6 times going a little
>> further each time. Getting confidence in the boat and in me and the gear. I
>> will let plenty of folks know i'm going and I will pick a good window.
>> leaving early 4:am or so in the am on an out going tide should put me back
>> at the dock by 3:pm gives me 2.5 hours of daylight.
>> I will take all safety precautions before I go. I'm thinking around march
>> if the weather is nice. I do have to haul the boat first and get 2 sea-cock
>> backing plates replaced and install my new transducer for the sonar. I got
>> the new Garmin Echo 50s for Christmas and need it to do bottom soundings. I
>> have an old Garmin 215 now that I will keep as a back up. I have an st4000
>> auto-helm and st50 speed, depth, wind, vmg that help alot whin I'm by my
>> self.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Andrew Burton 
>> <a.burton.sai...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> 
>>> Overdress for the weather. And don't mess with the weather. If the
>>> forecast is iffy, don't go. It can be really snotty in that area. I never
>>> take chances there. I suggest you be part of a delivery crew a few times
>>> before going offshore by yourself.
>>> Andy
>>> C&C 40
>>> Peregrine
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Curtis <cpt.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> It was 60 degrees here yesterday. and will be in the teens tonight. I
>>>> will pick a warmer window. I will not be cold. Will not much or I will not
>>>> go.I hate cold, However I do have a sense of ergency.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Dave Godwin <dave.god...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Curtis, are you planning on doing this in the near future? If so, are
>>>>> you prepared for some rather cold hours at sea?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Dave
>>>>> 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
>>>>> Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2014, at 1:22 PM, Curtis <cpt.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So I'm as some of you know in the process of moving to the next step
>>>>> in my training. I'm in the planing stages of my first over-night near 
>>>>> shore
>>>>> passage. I will leave early am: 4:00 with a full moon to help and head out
>>>>> to the "R 4" F1 R4s @ 32-05,901"N  080-35,099W this is the channel into
>>>>> Port Royal sound Beaufort SC.
>>>>>> I intend to sail out with the tide its a 19 mile ride I figure 5.5
>>>>> knots of speed? That will put me there at Day break or just after 3.45 
>>>>> hrs.
>>>>>> Then run straight east for 5nm to 32-029'899N  080-29'988 W That will
>>>>> take a nother 90 min,
>>>>>> Here, I will turn south to 32-03,997W 080-29'167W 1.92 miles = 34min
>>>>>> Here i will turn back west to 32-03'984W 080-34'965w this 4.92 leg
>>>>> take .89 min
>>>>>> Then I will turn North to will bring me the 4.92 nm back to to the "R
>>>>> 4" F1 R4s @ 32-05,901"N  080-35,099W the bell marker at the mouth of the
>>>>> channel. Then my hope will be to take the the Tide back in.
>>>>>> So here is the question." If I do this near shore how much will the
>>>>> tide effect my timing in the course: I plugged in the 5.5 based off motor
>>>>> speed.
>>>>>> All together time from the dock and back to the dock. 10.956 hours to
>>>>> cover 60.26nm
>>>>>> How much time will the tide cost me off shore? I know a bought the
>>>>> tide in and out of the river. Just need help with the offshore 
>>>>> expectation?
>>>>>> Thanks again. let me know if you need more information.
>>>>>> LT
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> ?Sailors, with their built in sense of order, service and discipline,
>>>>> should really be running the world.? - Nicholas Monsarrat
>>>>>> 
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>>>> should really be running the world.? - Nicholas Monsarrat
>>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 61 W Narragansett Ave
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>>> USA 02840
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> Subject: Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some
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> I will have a capable sailor with me But i will insist right up till point
> of peril to do it singled handed including the leg work and learning as
> with all these questions.
> 
> my wind is most always out of the south so I will steam out with the out
> going tide under flat conditions I get 6 knots at 2500 rpm's with a clean
> bottom.
> I would hope to have the afternoon winds at my back. the southerly breezes
> are most always out of the south. if that's the case I will be on the way
> back in at the last of the turnaround of the tide. So my outgoing tide will
> just starting to go back out. That may allow me to put my boat right-into
> her birth. I nose into my birth and the outgoing tide is on my nose giving
> me steering.
> 
> Thanks
> Curtis
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 3:52 PM, dwight veinot <dwight...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Curtis
>> 
>> Count on taking more time?averaging about 6 in a C&C 30 may be wishful?are
>> you steaming all the way or sailing?Hope your motor is reliable and
>> strong?if you get your first big trip figured out that good before hand I
>> would say you have a career ahead in sailing?will this be alone or with crew
>> 
>> 
>> Dwight Veinot
>> Alianna
>> C&C 35 MKII
>> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Curtis <cpt.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So I'm as some of you know in the process of moving to the next step in
>>> my training. I'm in the planing stages of my first over-night near shore
>>> passage. I will leave early am: 4:00 with a full moon to help and head out
>>> to the "R 4" F1 R4s @ 32-05,901"N  080-35,099W this is the channel into
>>> Port Royal sound Beaufort SC.
>>> I intend to sail out with the tide its a 19 mile ride I figure 5.5 knots
>>> of speed? That will put me there at Day break or just after 3.45 hrs.
>>> Then run straight east for 5nm to 32-029'899N  080-29'988 W That will
>>> take a nother 90 min,
>>> Here, I will turn south to 32-03,997W 080-29'167W 1.92 miles = 34min
>>> Here i will turn back west to 32-03'984W 080-34'965w this 4.92 leg take
>>> .89 min
>>> Then I will turn North to will bring me the 4.92 nm back to to the "R 4"
>>> F1 R4s @ 32-05,901"N  080-35,099W the bell marker at the mouth of the
>>> channel. Then my hope will be to take the the Tide back in.
>>> So here is the question." If I do this near shore how much will the tide
>>> effect my timing in the course: I plugged in the 5.5 based off motor speed.
>>> All together time from the dock and back to the dock. 10.956 hours to
>>> cover 60.26nm
>>> How much time will the tide cost me off shore? I know a bought the tide
>>> in and out of the river. Just need help with the offshore expectation?
>>> Thanks again. let me know if you need more information.
>>> LT
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> ?Sailors, with their built in sense of order, service and discipline,
>>> should really be running the world.? - Nicholas Monsarrat
>>> 
>>> 
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