Very nicely said, Rick. No howls here:) Rich
Indigo LF 38 Halifax, NS > On Oct 15, 2013, at 13:01, "Rick Brass" <rickbr...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > Welcome to the family, Jim. You will find that the folks on Stu’s List can > pretty much tell you anything you want to know about C&C boats – and a lot of > other things as well. > > I have a 76 model 38, a mark 1 as it turns out, that I’ve owned since 2003. > In recent years I’ve been refitting the boat as a live aboard cruiser. My > future Admiral and I have talked about getting a larger boat in order to have > more living space and storage. But we’ve basically agreed that we want to > keep Imzadi because of the great sailing characteristics of the boat and the > high quality – plus the fact that the systems I’ve installed and the > maintenance I’ve done over the years would probably need to be replicated on > any other boat we purchased. Sailing the 38 – or just about any other C&C – > is a whole lot more fun than sitting around in your average Benneteau, > Catalina, or Hunter condo-on-the-water. > > Just about any mid-70s C&C is built like a tank, albeit a nimble one. > Different boats have their own peculiarities – mast steps on some 35s and 33s > (IIRC) and glued in portlights on some models – but I’ve not had any problems > with my 38 in the years I’ve owned her. The 38 does have a cored hull with > some hard points for installation of through hulls. Some consider the core to > be a risk but I’ve had no problems; you may want the surveyor to look closely > at any boat you consider. As a matter of experience I’ve only had one small > blister on the hull, even though the boat is in brackish to salt water > constantly for 3 to 4 years between haul outs for bottom paint. I don’t > believe blistering was a big problem on C&Cs, but YMMV. > > You ask if the boat is too tender or too large. I’ve been sailing for 48 > years now, and in my experience the 38 is a fairly stiff boat. I’ve had the > rail down near the water a few times, but that is neither fast nor > comfortable. You can carry a generous amount of sail and still keep the boat > on her feet pretty easily. The pinched in IOR stern give a peculiar corkscrew > motion when going downwind in a seaway, but I sail mostly in the relatively > shallow water in Eastern North Carolina and that means the wave period is > pretty short which may contribute to the motion. I’ve sailed boats from a 12 > foot dinghy my Grandfather and I built when I was 14 to a 71 foot schooner on > which I crew, and IMHO the bigger the boat the easier it is to sail, all > things considered. Bigger boats are more stable, the motion is more > comfortable, and they demand less constant attention. You just need to get > used to the inertia and personality of the boat, and you can do that fairly > quickly. > > I usually single hand Imzadi. Well, when going point-to-point it’s actually > sort of single-and-a-half handing if you count George (the autopilot). My > future Admiral is intent to learn, but she is still essentially a non-sailor > so she mostly watches and tails the occasional genoa sheet it trims a genoa > car. I’ve made a number of changes to facilitate single handing: roller > furling genoa, the Strong Track for the main, removed the winch farm on the > deck and led all the lines aft to clutches and winches reachable from the > cockpit, line adjustable Garhauer genoa cars and a Garhauer traveler with > lines reachable from the helm. My next project will be self-tailing primary > winches I can reach from the wheel (tailing the big winches while steering > and grinding is a PITA). > > Most of those things are nice-to-haves. The two things I think are > need-to-haves are the roller furling and the good autopilot. You’ll be amazed > how much you will use the autopilot for hoisting sail and freeing you from > steering so you can do other things while on passage. > > So don’t be afraid of the bigger boat. You’ll get used to it pretty quickly. > > And I have one other comment, though I can already hear the howls coming from > some of the other listers. It’s really pleasant to own the prettiest girl in > the harbor. And for my money the two prettiest girls in the whole C&C fleet > are the 33-1 and the 38 mk1 and mk2. > > And after all, a boat is like a mistress: You have her because you love her, > she WILL take all of your money, and she might as well be pretty. > > > > Rick Brass > Imzadi -1976 C&C 38 mk1 > la Belle Aurore -1975 C&C 25 mk1 > Washington, NC > > > > > > > > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lynch > Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 6:19 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Stus-List Advice for sailing shorthanded on C&C 38 or 35 > > > Hi gang, > > > I'm determined to buy an old C&C 38 or 35 primarily as a cruiser. I'm > considering a 1977 C&C 38 Mark II in great shape. My biggest concern is > whether the boat is too large and too tender for my wife and I to handle it > cruising through inland waters of Washington state. It feels doable, > especially with a smallish jib on the furler, the traveler/main sheet in the > companionway and the main halyard routed to the cockpit. > > > But would the 35 be considerably easier to handle shorthanded? (Their > cabintop tavelers seem awkward when shorthanded.) Or should I consider other > old and affordable C&Cs like the 33, 34 or 36? I've cruised in heavy boats > and raced in light boats. I'm looking for a fun affordable C&C compromise. > I'd appreciate any input, especially from 38 owners or people who've had to > make similar decisions. > > > Thanks a lot, Jim > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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