Scroll down to MSG 6 and the link to the Craig list is there

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>   1. Re:  Fwd: Replacing Lifelines (Bill Bina)
>   2. Re:  C&C 35-2 for sale in STL (Rick Brass)
>   3. Re:  1981 30MK1 Shifting problem with the 2gm20F (Marek Dziedzic)
>   4. Re:  A question regarding a sail (Marek Dziedzic)
>   5. Re:  C&C 35-2 for sale in STL (Dennis C.)
>   6. Re:  C&C 35-2 for sale in STL (Stevan Plavsa)
>   7. Re:  C&C 35-2 for sale in STL (Steve Thomas)
>   8. Re:  C&C 35-2 for sale in STL (Steve Thomas)
>   9. Re:  C&C 35-2 for sale in STL (Ronald B. Frerker)
>  10. Re:  Drained AGM battery (Chuck S)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 12:03:28 -0400
> From: Bill Bina <billb...@sbcglobal.net>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: Replacing Lifelines
> Message-ID: <521f70d0.5000...@sbcglobal.net>
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> I re-did my lifelines a few years ago with a kit from
> http://www.csjohnson.com/
> 
> I may have ordered it through Defender, but you can also buy direct from 
> them now.
> 
> I also have one of their mooring "Grab & Go devices, and LOVE it. The 
> Admiral is also a big fan. :-)
> 
> Bill Bina
> 
> On 8/29/2013 11:38 AM, Al Serrato wrote:
>> Thanks for the suggestions. The kits look easy enough but I was 
>> concerned about whether a hand tool can give me a strong enough swage 
>> connection. I thought a big compression machine was needed to get it 
>> to bond correctly.
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 12:25:42 -0400
> From: "Rick Brass" <rickbr...@earthlink.net>
> To: "'Ronald B. Frerker'" <rbfrer...@yahoo.com>,
>    <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 35-2 for sale in STL
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> Can you tell me which CraigsList the boat is on. A friend of mine is
> interested, but cannot find the boat in any of the listings in Missouri.
> 
> 
> 
> Rick Brass
> 
> 
> 
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ronald B.
> Frerker
> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 9:39 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List C&C 35-2 for sale in STL
> 
> 
> 
> A friend here in STL put his boat up for sale on Craig's list for 10k$ or
> best offer.
> 
> He's moving to a landlocked area so he's motivated to sell.  It has an A-4
> and has been on fresh water for the last 30yrs that I know of.
> 
> Ron
> 
> Wild Cheri
> 
> C&C 30
> 
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> Message: 3
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> From: "Marek Dziedzic" <dziedzi...@hotmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: Stus-List 1981 30MK1 Shifting problem with the 2gm20F
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> Curtis,
> 
> I sent you the manual directly (I don't thin there is a way to attach 
> anything to these posts).
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 12:34:18 -0400
> From: "Marek Dziedzic" <dziedzi...@hotmail.com>
> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List A question regarding a sail
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> It isn't more difficult; though I do it outside of the stay; much more 
> sheeting involved (two  boat length vs. one)
> 
> Marek
> in Ottawa
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 10:21:58 -0400
> From: "Della Barba, Joe" <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List A question regarding a sail
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> The asym jibe isn't really any harder than jibing the genoa for me.  Only do 
> it in light air for cruising, heavy air we'll roll the genoa out.
> 
> Joe Della Barba
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> Message: 5
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> From: "Dennis C." <capt...@yahoo.com>
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 35-2 for sale in STL
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> Rick,
> 
> Try claz.org or yakaz.com. Better search engines for Craigslist 
> 
> Dennis C.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 29, 2013, at 11:25 AM, "Rick Brass" <rickbr...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
>> Can you tell me which CraigsList the boat is on. A friend of mine is 
>> interested, but cannot find the boat in any of the listings in Missouri.
>> 
>> Rick Brass
>> 
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ronald B. 
>> Frerker
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 9:39 AM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Stus-List C&C 35-2 for sale in STL
>> 
>> A friend here in STL put his boat up for sale on Craig's list for 10k$ or 
>> best offer.
>> He's moving to a landlocked area so he's motivated to sell.  It has an A-4 
>> and has been on fresh water for the last 30yrs that I know of.
>> Ron
>> Wild Cheri
>> C&C 30
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 14:02:44 -0400
> From: Stevan Plavsa <stevanpla...@gmail.com>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 35-2 for sale in STL
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> Or "allofcraigs.com"
> http://stlouis.craigslist.org/boa/3986046880.html
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Dennis C. <capt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> Rick,
>> 
>> Try claz.org or yakaz.com. Better search engines for Craigslist
>> 
>> Dennis C.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Aug 29, 2013, at 11:25 AM, "Rick Brass" <rickbr...@earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Can you tell me which CraigsList the boat is on. A friend of mine is
>> interested, but cannot find the boat in any of the listings in Missouri.**
>> **
>> 
>> ** **
>> 
>> Rick Brass****
>> 
>> ** **
>> 
>> *From:* CnC-List 
>> [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com<cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>]
>> *On Behalf Of *Ronald B. Frerker
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 28, 2013 9:39 AM
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Subject:* Stus-List C&C 35-2 for sale in STL****
>> 
>> ** **
>> 
>> A friend here in STL put his boat up for sale on Craig's list for 10k$ or
>> best offer.****
>> 
>> He's moving to a landlocked area so he's motivated to sell.  It has an A-4
>> and has been on fresh water for the last 30yrs that I know of.****
>> 
>> Ron****
>> 
>> Wild Cheri****
>> 
>> C&C 30****
>> 
>> ** **
>> 
>> ** **
>> 
>> ** **
>> 
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 14:10:33 -0400
> From: Steve Thomas <sthom...@sympatico.ca>
> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 35-2 for sale in STL
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> I looked too.
> The price is right.
> 
> I wonder how much would it cost to have it trucked to Lake Michigan or to the 
> Gulf?
> Seems like a long way from navigable waterways.
> 
> Steve Thomas
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Stevan 
> Plavsa
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 2:03 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 35-2 for sale in STL
> 
> 
> Or "allofcraigs.com"
> http://stlouis.craigslist.org/boa/3986046880.html
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Dennis C. <capt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>  Rick,
> 
> 
>  Try claz.org or yakaz.com. Better search engines for Craigslist
> 
> 
>  Dennis C.
> 
>  Sent from my iPhone
> 
>  On Aug 29, 2013, at 11:25 AM, "Rick Brass" <rickbr...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> 
>    Can you tell me which CraigsList the boat is on. A friend of mine is 
> interested, but cannot find the boat in any of the
> listings in Missouri.
> 
> 
> 
>    Rick Brass
> 
> 
> 
>    From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ronald 
> B. Frerker
>    Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 9:39 AM
>    To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>    Subject: Stus-List C&C 35-2 for sale in STL
> 
> 
> 
>    A friend here in STL put his boat up for sale on Craig's list for 10k$ or 
> best offer.
> 
>    He's moving to a landlocked area so he's motivated to sell.  It has an A-4 
> and has been on fresh water for the last 30yrs that
> I know of.
> 
>    Ron
> 
>    Wild Cheri
> 
>    C&C 30
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 14:47:30 -0400
> From: Steve Thomas <sthom...@sympatico.ca>
> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 35-2 for sale in STL
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> OK, so there IS a river near there.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Steve Thomas
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 2:11 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 35-2 for sale in STL
> 
> 
> I looked too.
> The price is right.
> 
> I wonder how much would it cost to have it trucked to Lake Michigan or to the 
> Gulf?
> Seems like a long way from navigable waterways.
> 
> Steve Thomas
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Stevan 
> Plavsa
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 2:03 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 35-2 for sale in STL
> 
> 
> Or "allofcraigs.com"
> http://stlouis.craigslist.org/boa/3986046880.html
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Dennis C. <capt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>  Rick,
> 
> 
>  Try claz.org or yakaz.com. Better search engines for Craigslist
> 
> 
>  Dennis C.
> 
>  Sent from my iPhone
> 
>  On Aug 29, 2013, at 11:25 AM, "Rick Brass" <rickbr...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> 
>    Can you tell me which CraigsList the boat is on. A friend of mine is 
> interested, but cannot find the boat in any of the
> listings in Missouri.
> 
> 
> 
>    Rick Brass
> 
> 
> 
>    From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ronald 
> B. Frerker
>    Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 9:39 AM
>    To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>    Subject: Stus-List C&C 35-2 for sale in STL
> 
> 
> 
>    A friend here in STL put his boat up for sale on Craig's list for 10k$ or 
> best offer.
> 
>    He's moving to a landlocked area so he's motivated to sell.  It has an A-4 
> and has been on fresh water for the last 30yrs that
> I know of.
> 
>    Ron
> 
>    Wild Cheri
> 
>    C&C 30
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 14:37:40 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "Ronald B. Frerker" <rbfrer...@yahoo.com>
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 35-2 for sale in STL
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> 
> Lots of folks take boats from STL down river and through the Gulf.
> Some even do the loop, but it's harder with a sailboat; too many low bridges.
> OTOH, going up the Illinois from STL is against the current and takes a lot 
> of time. ?When our folks race on Lake Michigan they take boats by trailer.
> West Access Marina on Carlyle Lake does have a truck and trailer which I 
> believe is capable of hauling the boat. ?Don't know if they actually do that. 
> ?I've only seen them hauling boats from the river to the lake.
> Ron
> Wild Cheri
> STL
> C&C 30
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Steve Thomas <sthom...@sympatico.ca>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 1:47 PM
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 35-2 for sale in STL
> 
> 
> 
> OK, so 
> there IS a river near there.
> ?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CnC-List 
> [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Steve 
> Thomas
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 2:11 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 35-2 for sale in 
> STL
> 
> 
> I?looked too. 
> The 
> price is right. 
> ?
> I 
> wonder how much would it cost to have it trucked to Lake Michigan or to?the 
> Gulf?
> Seems 
> like a long way from navigable waterways. 
> ?
> Steve 
> Thomas
> ?
> ?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CnC-List 
> [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Stevan 
> Plavsa
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 2:03 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 35-2 for sale in 
> STL
> 
> 
> Or "allofcraigs.com"? 
> http://stlouis.craigslist.org/boa/3986046880.html
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Dennis C. <capt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> Rick,
>> 
>> 
>> Try claz.org or yakaz.com. Better search engines for  Craigslist?
>> 
>> 
>> Dennis C.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Aug 29, 2013, at 11:25 AM, "Rick Brass" <rickbr...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Can  you tell me which CraigsList the boat is on. A friend of mine is 
>> interested,  but cannot find the boat in any of the listings in  Missouri.
>>> ?
>>> Rick  Brass
>>> ?
>>> From:CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ronald B. 
>>> Frerker
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 9:39  AM
>>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> Subject: Stus-List C&C  35-2 for sale in STL
>>> ?
>>> A  friend here in STL put his boat up for sale on Craig's list for 10k$ or 
>>> best  offer.
>>> He's moving to a  landlocked area so he's motivated to sell. ?It has an A-4 
>>> and has been  on fresh water for the last 30yrs that I know  of.
>>> Ron
>>> Wild  Cheri
>>> C&C  30
>>> ?
>>> ?
>>> ?
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> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 22:51:29 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Chuck S <cscheaf...@comcast.net>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Drained AGM battery
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> Hi David, 
>> From my limited experience, the AGM batteries sound like they are toasted. 
>> They are the most expensive so you are entitled to replacement.
> I'd pull em both, proceed to warranty, play dumb, say as little as possible 
> and hope they replace them without a fuss. They may want to prorate them. 
> They should read 12.4 or higher at all times. 
> 
> AGMs are desireable because they hold a charge for months, while wet cells 
> lose charge quickly. Gell Cells are in the middle. 
> 
> (You must pull the load off those batteries that are draining them.) 
> 
> 
> Chuck 
> Resolute 
> 1990 C&C 34R 
> Atlantic City, NJ 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Knecht" <davidakne...@gmail.com> 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 10:14:18 AM 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Drained AGM battery 
> 
> As usual, thank you all for your thoughts. The battery is up to 11.3 volts 
> after 1.5 days on the smart charger. I will definitely have it load tested 
> when it is done charging. As to warranty replacement- the discharge was my 
> fault. Would they still replace it under warranty under those circumstances? 
> When I call Mid-state should I already have done the load testing? Do I need 
> it at steady state on the recharge before I load test it? 
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 27, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Chuck S < cscheaf...@comcast.net > wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Not sure I like this? You never answered if you or on a mooring? 
> 
> 
> Mooring 
> 
> <blockquote>
> 
> 
> What are you charging with? 
> </blockquote>
> Alternator on boat. Now at home using smart charger. Considering adding a 
> solar panel since the boat sits a week at a time often with no power at the 
> mooring just to be topped up without having to run the engine. I run the 
> engine quite minimally because I can sail off and on the mooring, so this 
> would seem a good idea. 
> 
> <blockquote>
> 
> 
> The engine alternator or shorepower? Is the battery completely isolated? 
> 
> </blockquote>
> Isolated from what? 
> 
> <blockquote>
> 
> 
> I think you should remove every wire from the batteries and charge 
> individually with a good charger connected to shorepower. 
> </blockquote>
> That is what I am doing at home. NO way to do it on the boat. 
> 
> <blockquote>
> 
> 
> Then let sit overnight to be sure it holds the charge on it's own. 
> 
> </blockquote>
> Before I return it to the boat, I will do that and load test it. BTW, if this 
> is delayed, any reason I can't use one of my older wet cell batteries in its 
> place, or is mixing AGM and wet cell a bad idea. 
> 
> <blockquote>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Chuck 
> Resolute 
> 1990 C&C 34R 
> Atlantic City, NJ 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Knecht" < davidakne...@gmail.com > 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 9:22:00 AM 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Drained AGM battery 
> 
> I used a pair of jumper cables and hooked up the dead battery in parallel 
> with an old but servicable battery I had at home and hooked up the charger to 
> it. After an hour I had about 7 volts. Now the charger would recognize the 
> dead AGM and is charging it. It was up to 10V overnight, so I am hoping it 
> will finish the job. If so, then I am back to figuring out what drained it or 
> if there is an alternator problem. I presume if I measure the voltage at each 
> battery while the engine is running it will be the charging voltage? If I get 
> 14.4 volts or so at both batteries, then presumably my alternator is OK? Then 
> I would be back to the propane alarm issue as the most likely culprit. Does 
> that plan sound reasonable? Thanks- Dave 
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 26, 2013, at 11:08 PM, Russ & Melody < russ...@telus.net > wrote: 
> 
> <blockquote>
> 
> Hi David, 
> 
> 1. - yes, a new battery can fail and a two month old battery is still on 
> warranty. Give it back for a load test / replacement. 
> 
> 2. - The AGM will charge from an alternator if discharged but may not charge 
> from a smart regulator as the have a dumb battery validation check. If you 
> want to use a smart charge on a really flat battery then you need to jump 
> start the process with a dumb charger or another battery. 
> - you should see life in the battery after a half hour on the alternator but 
> a few hours for a good bulk charge 
> 
> You may have a fried diode in the alternator which can deplete a battery when 
> the engine is not running (and not isolated from the battery) and give 
> insufficient charge voltage. 
> 
> Cheers, Russ 
> Sweet 35 mk-1 
> 
> 
> At 07:04 AM 26/08/2013, you wrote: 
> 
> <blockquote>
> I am beginning to feel that I have bad karma with my new boat. First the good 
> news: based on all the advice I received, the Universal starting issue seems 
> definitely fixed- since I cleaned the ground connection, it has started 
> smoothly every time. The only strange thing is that all the directions I have 
> read say that you should continue to push the glow plug button while pushing 
> the start button. However, on mine, the engine will not turn over unless I 
> release the glow plug button. Also, the GPS restarts each time I start the 
> engine, which may mean there is still some electrical issue, but neither is a 
> serious problem at this point. 
> Also, the black smoke etc. is largely gone since I cleaned the bottom and 
> prop as best I could. The shaft and prop were completely crusted with 
> barnacles, so clearly my Pettit zinc coat did not do its job. I may try Velox 
> next spring based on the advice of a local old timer. 
> 
> So yesterday I go went to the boat and found that my #1 battery is completely 
> dead. This is the battery that is wired for the auto-bilge pump switch and 
> propane fume alarm (that is all I know of). The batteries are 2 month old 
> Power-tech AGM group 27's. I could not get much of any charge after a day of 
> running the engine for a few hours totals. 
> Questions: 
> 1. do new batteries fail at some rate? 
> 2. Will an AGM charge from the alternator if fully discharged? If so, roughly 
> how long would it take? I brought it home and tried to use my smart charger 
> and that is not charging it at all (the charging light does not come on). 
> Perhaps related- I twice was on the boat briefly during the week and found 
> the Xintex propane fume alarm going. Both times I checked the propane system 
> and the tank shutoff was closed and all switches were off. So I don't believe 
> there were really propane fumes in the cabin. So could the sensor have 
> failed? Could the alarm going for many many hours drain the battery (I don't 
> think the bilge pump is doing it). 
> 
> 
> David Knecht 
> Aries 
> 1990 C&C 34+ 
> New London, CT 
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