What is the news on the Fall Rendezvous.

John Maturo

Ashe, Baltic 39

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Today's Topics:

   1.  Sleeping on a Boat (bria...@aol.com)
   2. Re:  How to sleep on a boat? (Was: Moving from a C&C??)
      (Wally Bryant)
   3.  Moving from a C&C?? (Dennis C.)
   4. Re:  How to sleep on a boat? (Was: Moving from a C&C??)
      (Jake Brodersen)
   5. Re:  How to sleep on a boat? (Was: Moving from a C&C??)
      (Ken Heaton)
   6. Re:  How to sleep on a boat? (Was: Moving from a C&C??)
      (Joel Aronson)
   7. Re:  How to sleep on a boat? (Was: Moving from a C&C??)
      (Richard Walter)
   8. Re:  How to sleep on a boat? (Was: Moving from a C&C??)
      (Ken Heaton)
   9. Re:  37+ Backstay (Edd Schillay)
  10. Re:  37+ Backstay (Joel Aronson)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 12:03:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: bria...@aol.com
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Sleeping on a Boat
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I have to put in a plug for the Landfall 39. It has a very workable layout...a 
thwartship queen-sized berth in the aft cabin, two heads with  showers, a large 
walk-around (with one leaf up), or huge (with both leaves  up) dining table, 
useable galley, and a comfortable nav station.
 
Not a racing boat, but sails well and is adequately powered with a 4-cylinder 
Yanmar diesel engine (in an "engine room" with good access,  and burns approx. 
.6 gallons/hour at 6.7 knots). 
 
Center cockpit is dry and roomy. 
 
Bill
 
MYSTY
Landfall 39
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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 20:07:35 +0000
From: Wally Bryant <w...@wbryant.com>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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Umm, I can guarantee that the LF38 is *not* what Rich is looking for...

The difference between Landfall models is incredible.  Walk through the
LF39 vs. the LF38 and you will be amazed at the design differences that a foot 
can make.  The LF39 seats 8 at the main cabin table.  It's a totally different 
boat.

The LF38 is a sailing machine, with a nod towards long-term cruising.  I did 
some redesign work on the running rig, galley and nav station areas, and can 
honestly say that I nailed it.  I can single hand the boat under severe 
conditions, and it is very comfortable at sea and when anchored in a blow 
(given sound ground tackle) but it isn't a boat for everyone.

Wal

Josh wrote:
> ...<snip> The Landfall 38 seems to be a well regarded choice as well.  More 
> so for
> cruising and less for racing. <snip>




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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 15:56:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Dennis C." <capt...@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Stus-List Moving from a C&C??
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How about a Beneteau 473 shoal draft?? 

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA





>________________________________
> From: Edd Schillay <e...@schillay.com>
>To: Richard Walter <sailind...@yahoo.com>; "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
><cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
>Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 10:09 AM
>Subject: Re: Stus-List How to sleep on a boat? (Was: Moving from a C&C??)
> 
>
>
>Richard,
>
>
>Take a good look at a C&C 37+ or 37XL. Great centerline queen-sized berth in 
>the aft cabin. Very comfortable.?
>
>
>No need to climb over the spouse -- unless you're feeling frisky.?
>
>
>
>
>All the best,
>
>
>Edd
>
>
>-------------------------------
>Edd M. Schillay
>Starship Enterprise
>NCC-1701-B
>C&C 37+ | City Island, NY
>www.StarshipSailing.com
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>Sent via iPhone 5
>
>On Aug 25, 2013, at 10:02 AM, Richard Walter <sailind...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>Greetings,
>
>
>As our quest for a more comfortable boat continues, we are finding that one 
>issue continues to be a quandary: how do we sleep? Currently we fill in 
>INDIGO's u-dinette every night and disassemble it every day; it is effective 
>but annoying. Plus we have to climb over each other and the saloon table. We 
>are looking at center cockpit boats, including the Landfall 43s. Many have a 
>centerline berth, which seems optimal. We don't sail at night and don't plan 
>to (so we are not afraid of falling out underway). The transverse and pullman 
>style berths both have the "crawl-over" factor; do we want to keep climbing 
>over each other to get into/out of bed forever? Not really. Pullman seem a 
>little more sleeper-friendly.
>
>
>Anyone want to share their experiences with various styles of aft cabin 
>berths? What do you like/dislike and why?
>
>
>Other boat search factors: we need a functional galley with abundant counter 
>space. We don't race, so PHRF matters not at all. We want good/great sailing 
>with ease of sail handling.
>
>
>This will (hopefully!) be our forever boat, so we want to be planful.
>
>
>Thank you all in advance for your consideration.
>
>
>Richard
>s/v INDIGO
>1978 36-footer
>Watch Hill
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 19:01:10 -0400
From: "Jake Brodersen" <captain_j...@cox.net>
To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List How to sleep on a boat? (Was: Moving from a
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That reminds me of my Hunter 28.5.  Waves would occasionally slap against
the transom, getting trapped and slapping the heck against the fiberglass.
It can make for an interesting night.

Jake

Jake Brodersen
C&C 35 Mk-III
Midnight Mistress
Hampton VA
               





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Just keep in mind that aft cabins can be noisy at anchor with waves slapping
the underside of the transom skirt.  Everything is a compromise....

John


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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 22:27:01 -0300
From: Ken Heaton <kenhea...@gmail.com>
To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List How to sleep on a boat? (Was: Moving from a
        C&C??)
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Of course I'm with Josh and Edd on this.  I posted these photos back in
July but I'll throw then out again.

The aft cabin on a 37+ it looks like this:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-012Obd94ATA/T00NoOqd4PI/AAAAAAAABDo/yzYMUFphrBo/w600-h434-no/Nina14.jpg

The aft bed is a queen size.  My wife is quite fond of that cabin...

The rest of the interior ain't too shabby either:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-SGUTt8WmoBs/TMzYnKHI4HI/AAAAAAAAJkg/_m8Hr53wRsk/w958-h719-no/IMG_1779.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-aahIPlK4ALA/S3yIdzFKWOI/AAAAAAAAJkg/wKyCXdqfjDU/w958-h660-no/40b3p0203.jpg

Anne & I go out with just the two of us frequently, even on days when we
need two reefs in the main and the Genoa furled down to less than 100%

Of course the boat is also very comfortable with two couples for week long
cruises, each couple having the privacy of their own cabin.

I think the 34+ is very similar, with the berth in the aft cabin arranged a
bit differently.

Ken H.


On 25 August 2013 20:01, Jake Brodersen <captain_j...@cox.net> wrote:

> That reminds me of my Hunter 28.5.  Waves would occasionally slap against
> the transom, getting trapped and slapping the heck against the fiberglass.
> It can make for an interesting night.
>
> Jake
>
> Jake Brodersen
> C&C 35 Mk-III
> Midnight Mistress
> Hampton VA
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> j...@svpaws.net
> Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 11:36 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List How to sleep on a boat? (Was: Moving from a C&C??)
>
> Just keep in mind that aft cabins can be noisy at anchor with waves
> slapping
> the underside of the transom skirt.  Everything is a compromise....
>
> John
>
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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 21:37:45 -0400
From: Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com>
To: "kenhea...@gmail.com" <kenhea...@gmail.com>,
        "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
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I made the mistake of showing those photos to the admiral. She'll take it!

Joel


On Aug 25, 2013, at 9:27 PM, Ken Heaton <kenhea...@gmail.com> wrote:

Of course I'm with Josh and Edd on this.  I posted these photos back in
July but I'll throw then out again.

The aft cabin on a 37+ it looks like this:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-012Obd94ATA/T00NoOqd4PI/AAAAAAAABDo/yzYMUFphrBo/w600-h434-no/Nina14.jpg

The aft bed is a queen size.  My wife is quite fond of that cabin...

The rest of the interior ain't too shabby either:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-SGUTt8WmoBs/TMzYnKHI4HI/AAAAAAAAJkg/_m8Hr53wRsk/w958-h719-no/IMG_1779.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-aahIPlK4ALA/S3yIdzFKWOI/AAAAAAAAJkg/wKyCXdqfjDU/w958-h660-no/40b3p0203.jpg

Anne & I go out with just the two of us frequently, even on days when we
need two reefs in the main and the Genoa furled down to less than 100%

Of course the boat is also very comfortable with two couples for week long
cruises, each couple having the privacy of their own cabin.

I think the 34+ is very similar, with the berth in the aft cabin arranged a
bit differently.

Ken H.


On 25 August 2013 20:01, Jake Brodersen <captain_j...@cox.net> wrote:

> That reminds me of my Hunter 28.5.  Waves would occasionally slap against
> the transom, getting trapped and slapping the heck against the fiberglass.
> It can make for an interesting night.
>
> Jake
>
> Jake Brodersen
> C&C 35 Mk-III
> Midnight Mistress
> Hampton VA
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
> j...@svpaws.net
> Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 11:36 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List How to sleep on a boat? (Was: Moving from a C&C??)
>
> Just keep in mind that aft cabins can be noisy at anchor with waves
> slapping
> the underside of the transom skirt.  Everything is a compromise....
>
> John
>
>
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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 19:56:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Richard Walter <sailind...@yahoo.com>
To: "kenhea...@gmail.com" <kenhea...@gmail.com>,
        "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List How to sleep on a boat? (Was: Moving from a
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Ken,

Thanks for the reply and the photos. It DOES look like a sweet ride. I have a 
few questions about the design: How id the tankage? I see similar boats on 
Yachtworld carry 60 gallons of water. Is that enough for weeklong-or-more 
cruising? Showering?

How do you like the mainsheet/traveler in the cockpit? Is it in your face? How 
would you rig a bimini?

Thanks,
Richard



________________________________
 From: Ken Heaton <kenhea...@gmail.com>
To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List How to sleep on a boat? (Was: Moving from a C&C??)
 


Of course I'm with Josh and Edd on this. ?I posted these photos back in July 
but I'll throw then out again.

The aft cabin on a 37+ it looks like 
this:?https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-012Obd94ATA/T00NoOqd4PI/AAAAAAAABDo/yzYMUFphrBo/w600-h434-no/Nina14.jpg


The aft bed is a queen size. ?My wife is quite fond of that cabin...

The rest of the interior ain't too shabby 
either:?https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-SGUTt8WmoBs/TMzYnKHI4HI/AAAAAAAAJkg/_m8Hr53wRsk/w958-h719-no/IMG_1779.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-aahIPlK4ALA/S3yIdzFKWOI/AAAAAAAAJkg/wKyCXdqfjDU/w958-h660-no/40b3p0203.jpg

Anne & I go out with just the two of us frequently, even on days when we need 
two reefs in the main and the Genoa furled down to less than 100%

Of course the boat is also very comfortable with two couples for week long 
cruises, each couple having the privacy of their own cabin.

I think the 34+ is very similar, with the berth in the aft cabin arranged a bit 
differently.

Ken H.



On 25 August 2013 20:01, Jake Brodersen <captain_j...@cox.net> wrote:

That reminds me of my Hunter 28.5. ?Waves would occasionally slap against
>the transom, getting trapped and slapping the heck against the fiberglass.
>It can make for an interesting night.
>
>Jake
>
>Jake Brodersen
>C&C 35 Mk-III
>Midnight Mistress
>Hampton VA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
>
>j...@svpaws.net
>Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 11:36 AM
>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>Subject: Re: Stus-List How to sleep on a boat? (Was: Moving from a C&C??)
>
>Just keep in mind that aft cabins can be noisy at anchor with waves slapping
>the underside of the transom skirt. ?Everything is a compromise....
>
>John
>
>
>
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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 08:30:35 -0300
From: Ken Heaton <kenhea...@gmail.com>
Cc: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
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Hello Richard,

Our 37+ carries 80 US gallons of water, split over 3 water tanks as follows:

Tank Capacity, Water: 299 litres  (66 Imp Gal. -  79 US Gal)
Bow Tank: 87 litres (19 Imp Gal. - 23 US Gal)
Port Tank: 106 litres (23.3 Imp Gal. - 28 US Gal)
Starboard Tank: 106 litres (23.3 Imp Gal. - 28 US Gal)

This was the factory set up in 1990.  I assume this is what all the 37+'s
really have except a few that never had holding tanks that carry 100 US
Gallons of water.  Our's started life with four water tanks and no holding
tank as it was originally located in Halifax, NS, where overboard discharge
used to be permitted.

We find that enough for two couples for about a week if we take a bit of
care.  We can usually go for a swim or two every day where we are
(typically the Bras d'Or Lake system) so we may shower only every 2nd day.

I prefer the traveller on the bridgedeck in the cockpit, but that's me.  I
like to trim and tweak sails frequently so I find it's location there ideal.

There will have to be a gap between a bimini and the dodger because of this
traveller location.

Ken H.



On 25 August 2013 23:56, Richard Walter <sailind...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Ken,
>
> Thanks for the reply and the photos. It DOES look like a sweet ride. I
> have a few questions about the design: How id the tankage? I see similar
> boats on Yachtworld carry 60 gallons of water. Is that enough for
> weeklong-or-more cruising? Showering?
>
> How do you like the mainsheet/traveler in the cockpit? Is it in your face?
> How would you rig a bimini?
>
> Thanks,
> Richard
>
>   ------------------------------
>  *From:* Ken Heaton <kenhea...@gmail.com>
> *To:* cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 25, 2013 9:27 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List How to sleep on a boat? (Was: Moving from a
> C&C??)
>
> Of course I'm with Josh and Edd on this.  I posted these photos back in
> July but I'll throw then out again.
>
> The aft cabin on a 37+ it looks like this:
> https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-012Obd94ATA/T00NoOqd4PI/AAAAAAAABDo/yzYMUFphrBo/w600-h434-no/Nina14.jpg
>
> The aft bed is a queen size.  My wife is quite fond of that cabin...
>
> The rest of the interior ain't too shabby either:
> https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-SGUTt8WmoBs/TMzYnKHI4HI/AAAAAAAAJkg/_m8Hr53wRsk/w958-h719-no/IMG_1779.JPG
>
>
> https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-aahIPlK4ALA/S3yIdzFKWOI/AAAAAAAAJkg/wKyCXdqfjDU/w958-h660-no/40b3p0203.jpg
>
> Anne & I go out with just the two of us frequently, even on days when we
> need two reefs in the main and the Genoa furled down to less than 100%
>
> Of course the boat is also very comfortable with two couples for week long
> cruises, each couple having the privacy of their own cabin.
>
> I think the 34+ is very similar, with the berth in the aft cabin arranged
> a bit differently.
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On 25 August 2013 20:01, Jake Brodersen <captain_j...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> That reminds me of my Hunter 28.5.  Waves would occasionally slap against
> the transom, getting trapped and slapping the heck against the fiberglass.
> It can make for an interesting night.
>
> Jake
>
> Jake Brodersen
> C&C 35 Mk-III
> Midnight Mistress
> Hampton VA
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
> j...@svpaws.net
> Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 11:36 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List How to sleep on a boat? (Was: Moving from a C&C??)
>
> Just keep in mind that aft cabins can be noisy at anchor with waves
> slapping
> the underside of the transom skirt.  Everything is a compromise....
>
> John
>
>
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 09:49:01 -0400
From: Edd Schillay <e...@schillay.com>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List 37+ Backstay
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All,

        I think my mounts are original and have not had any troubles. Here are 
some pics:

        https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15162917/ENTERPRISE/stern.jpg
        https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15162917/ENTERPRISE/port.jpg
        https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15162917/ENTERPRISE/starboard.jpg
        https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15162917/ENTERPRISE/inside.jpg


        
        All the best,

        Edd


        Edd M. Schillay
        Starship Enterprise
        C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
        City Island, NY 
        Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log Website

On Aug 23, 2013, at 11:31 PM, Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Edd and Ken,
> 
> Chuck contacted me with concern about the way the PO engineered a fix for 
> this weakness.  Now I can't help being equally interested in pictures of your 
> boats.
> 
> Josh
> 
> 
> -- 
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> 
> On Aug 22, 2013 10:31 AM, "Edd Schillay" <e...@schillay.com> wrote:
> Rich,
> 
>       I also have a 1990 C&C 37+ based in City Island. I've had the boat for 
> 8 years now, and have not had a problem with our backstay mounts either. I'll 
> take a close look this weekend at it all and take some photos if you like. 
> 
>       
>       All the best,
> 
>       Edd
> 
> 
>       Edd M. Schillay
>       Starship Enterprise
>       C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>       City Island, NY 
>       Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log Website
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 21, 2013, at 9:03 PM, Ken Heaton <kenhea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I haven't had to do anything to either of our backstays mounts.  I have been 
>> told no to go over 2,500 psi on the rams though, so I don't.  This boat was 
>> raced quite a bit in the past, including several Marblehead to Halifax Ocean 
>> Races so if they were going to let go, you'd think they would have by now.
>> 
>> There is a 37+ in the area that has tangs sticking up through the transom 
>> instead of the pair of U bolts.  I haven't seen what he has inside backing 
>> them up though.
>> 
>> Ken H.
>> 
>> 
>> On 21 August 2013 20:55, j...@svpaws.net <j...@svpaws.net> wrote:
>> That's the boat I remember reading about!
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Aug 21, 2013, at 7:24 PM, Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Its not Blue Pearl is it?
>>> 
>>> Josh Muckley
>>> S/V Sea Hawk
>>> 1989 C&C 37+
>>> Solomons, MD
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
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>>> On Aug 21, 2013 6:44 PM, "Rhhulit" <rhhu...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>> Hi would you post this?  Thanks!
>>> 
>>> This list is very helpful.  We are recent owners of a 1990 37+.  I put some 
>>> backstay on while motorsailing this weekend and managed to partially pull 
>>> the ridiculously poorly engineered mount.    I have some ideas on 
>>> repair-grind off the bulge, big backing plate and a proper chain plate 
>>> tang- but I was wondering what others have done.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Richard H. Hulit, Jr.
>>> C&C37+ Kindred
>>> Greenwich, CT
>>> 
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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 09:52:35 -0400
From: Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com>
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List 37+ Backstay
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Edd,

It looks like you have dis-similar metals with an aluminum backing plate
and stainless bolts.  I'd take a close look at them.

Joel


On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Edd Schillay <e...@schillay.com> wrote:

> All,
>
> I think my mounts are original and have not had any troubles. Here are
> some pics:
>
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15162917/ENTERPRISE/stern.jpg
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15162917/ENTERPRISE/port.jpg
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15162917/ENTERPRISE/starboard.jpg
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15162917/ENTERPRISE/inside.jpg
>
>
>
>  All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log Website<http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/>
>
> On Aug 23, 2013, at 11:31 PM, Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Edd and Ken,
>
> Chuck contacted me with concern about the way the PO engineered a fix for
> this weakness.  Now I can't help being equally interested in pictures of
> your boats.
>
> Josh
>
> --
> When privacy matters.
> http://www.secure-my-email.com
> On Aug 22, 2013 10:31 AM, "Edd Schillay" <e...@schillay.com> wrote:
>
>> Rich,
>>
>> I also have a 1990 C&C 37+ based in City Island. I've had the boat for 8
>> years now, and have not had a problem with our backstay mounts either. I'll
>> take a close look this weekend at it all and take some photos if you like.
>>
>>  All the best,
>>
>> Edd
>>
>>
>> Edd M. Schillay
>> Starship Enterprise
>> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>>  City Island, NY
>>  Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
>> Website<http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 21, 2013, at 9:03 PM, Ken Heaton <kenhea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I haven't had to do anything to either of our backstays mounts.  I have
>> been told no to go over 2,500 psi on the rams though, so I don't.  This
>> boat was raced quite a bit in the past, including several Marblehead to
>> Halifax Ocean Races so if they were going to let go, you'd think they would
>> have by now.
>>
>> There is a 37+ in the area that has tangs sticking up through the transom
>> instead of the pair of U bolts.  I haven't seen what he has inside backing
>> them up though.
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>>
>> On 21 August 2013 20:55, j...@svpaws.net <j...@svpaws.net> wrote:
>>
>>> That's the boat I remember reading about!
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Aug 21, 2013, at 7:24 PM, Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Its not Blue Pearl is it?
>>>
>>> Josh Muckley
>>> S/V Sea Hawk
>>> 1989 C&C 37+
>>> Solomons, MD
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> When privacy matters.
>>> http://www.secure-my-email.com
>>> On Aug 21, 2013 6:44 PM, "Rhhulit" <rhhu...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi would you post this?  Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> This list is very helpful.  We are recent owners of a 1990 37+.  I put
>>>> some backstay on while motorsailing this weekend and managed to partially
>>>> pull the ridiculously poorly engineered mount.    I have some ideas on
>>>> repair-grind off the bulge, big backing plate and a proper chain plate
>>>> tang- but I was wondering what others have done.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Richard H. Hulit, Jr.
>>>> C&C37+ Kindred
>>>> Greenwich, CT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album
>>>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com
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>>>>
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