The PO put a large solar vent in the small opening hatch in the center of the cabin top. Works really well in this location but it blocks the hatch opening handle and you cannot open this hatch anymore. I want to move the vent to a location on the starboard side and behind the mast and just in front of the deck organizer. This would allow me to restore the hatch plastic and be able to open the hatch. This project is on the never ending "to do" list.
Best regards, Bob Hickson, P. Eng, RHI, CEA C&C 29-2 Flying Colours Frenchman's Bay Yacht Club Pickering, ON (416) 919-2297 bobhick...@rogers.com ~~~~ __/) ~~~~ -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com Sent: August-04-13 12:00 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: CnC-List Digest, Vol 91, Issue 10 Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to cnc-list@cnc-list.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com You can reach the person managing the list at cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Using a hammer drill to remove corroded fastener (John Russo) 2. Re: Jake (Josh Muckley) 3. Re: head replacement (Ron Kaye) 4. Re: where to put the solar fan (Chuck S) 5. Crow vent size (Curtis) 6. Re: where to put the solar fan (Edd Schillay) 7. Re: Crow vent size (Chuck S) 8. Using a hammer drill to remove corroded fastener (Kim Brown) 9. Re: where to put the solar fan (Steve Thomas) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2013 19:59:14 -0400 From: John Russo <johnrussob...@optonline.net> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Using a hammer drill to remove corroded fastener Message-ID: <001b01ce90a5$75050570$5f0f1050$@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Pete, Stainless screw corrosion to aluminum mast is probably the culprit. Heat the screw with Napa torch until it is ret hot which breaks the corrosion then let it cool a bit and then hit with a impact wrench and proper bit. Generally will do it. John Arpeggio C&C 32 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of kelly petew Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 10:14 AM To: cnc-list Subject: Stus-List Using a hammer drill to remove corroded fastener I want to add a "T" track slide to my mast for a whisker pole. The mast tracking is in place, but I can't break the bottom fastener, in order to install the T-Track. Likely, corrosion b/t the fastener and mast is the issue. Has anyone had any experience - good or bad - using a hammer drill to break the corrosion bond?? thanks. Pete W. C&C30 MKII -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The admiral is very particular about looking good on the race > course, no matter how we sail.**** > > ** ** > > Jake**** > > ** ** > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of > *Gary Nylander > *Sent:* Friday, August 02, 2013 9:52 AM > *To:* CandC List > *Subject:* Stus-List Jake**** > > ** ** > > There's a great picture of Jake and his crew gracing Midnight Mistress > on page 8 of the new SpinSheet blurb. Nice shirts, Jake. Did you get > the ''best dressed" award along with your first in class?**** > > **** > > Gary**** > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > -- When security matters. http://www.secure-my-email.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Ron On Aug 2, 2013, at 8:44 PM, Tim Goodyear <timg...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ron, what head did you go with? I am getting fed up with replacing pump components on ours... > > Thanks, > > Tim > Mojito > C&C 35-3 > Branford, CT > > On Aug 2, 2013, at 10:59 AM, Ron Kaye <ronkaye...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Bev and Bob, >> >> We just did this on our 35/3 last weekend. We originally got a replacement Jabsco pump to put on the existing bowl - it was supposed to fit "all years" models. >> >> It didn't. Four bolt attachment to a three bolt connection. Blah! >> >> So we simply got an entire new Jabsco from West. >> >> Two of the existing mounting bolts (I believe they were "hanger bolts") broke off when taking off the old head. The new base did not fit over the previous ones. >> >> So then we did what you did and tried to find access from underneath for threaded bolts. Not available. Talked to a guy I know with a 35/1. It turned out to be simple deal: There is solid wood infer the fiberglass there. The answer is to use SS lag screws and washers. You need four. We used 5/16" x 2". West Marine. Just screw them through the glass into the wood. >> >> I cut the two old hangar bolts off with a hack saw (try not to saw the surrounding glass - this is the hardest part - a grinder would have been better). Set the new base on and marked two holes in front. Take it off and drill a smaller hole as you would for a wood screw. The fiberglass layer must be bored out to the diameter of the screw (5/16") or it will start cracking. So do that just at the top of the holes. >> >> Set the head in place and ratchet down the front two until it can't wiggle and mark the rear ones. Remove, repeat the drilling and don't forget the washers and a thin bead if silicone sealant under the base. >> >> Worked like a charm for us newbies. >> >> Ron & Lisa >> >> On Aug 2, 2013, at 10:12 AM, "broo...@aol.com" <broo...@aol.com> wrote: >> >>> Plan to replace CW with a Jabsco Twist and Lock. What suggestions do listers have for bolting this in place. There does not seem to be any access under the platform the current head is on. Toggle bolts have been suggested. Or creating an inspection port for placement of nuts/washers. Is there anything under there I need to worry about damaging? Thanks. >>> >>> Bev Genader Bob Morgan >>> C&C 37 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Others need the fan blades to change from exhaust to intake. I have all four set on exhaust and rely on vents and companionway for intake. The only time I turn them off is when I'm trying to heat the boat. Last thought. I find they keep the boat fresh smelling, but do little to cool the boat at my latitude. Solar fans can't replace AC. The sun is just too powerful and we get a lot of 90plus days each summer so the cabin is usually a little warmer than ambient temperature. It's tough to cool with 90 degree air. They do better after the sun sets and the air cools. Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Atlantic City, NJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bev Parslow" <bparslo...@yahoo.ca> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2013 3:24:50 PM Subject: Stus-List where to put the vent Just bought a 4 inch solar powered vent. What is the best place for it? The boat is a 29 mark 2. We could try it on the forward hatch, the non opening acrylic panel in the main cabin, or take out the vent in the head and make it bigger. Are there any other options? _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130804/55 9a260e/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 09:50:45 -0400 From: Edd Schillay <e...@schillay.com> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List where to put the solar fan Message-ID: <54df16d8-b4eb-4de0-81be-83234930f...@schillay.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" All, As I understand it, the best way to use solar fans are to use two. One for air in (intake) and the other on the other end of the boat set to exhaust. This will create a flow of air through the boat to reduce the buildup of mildew and mold inside the boat. It won't keep the boat cool, but it will keep it smelling fresh. .. Written from the Enterprise on a guest mooring at SYC in Oyster Bay. All the best, Edd ------------------------------- Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise ------------------------------- C&C 37+ | NCC-1701-B City Island, NY ------------------------------- Sent via iPad On Aug 4, 2013, at 8:43 AM, Chuck S <cscheaf...@comcast.net> wrote: > FWIW, I faced the solar fan problem several years ago. I studied the boats at several marinas, especially the newer model boats built after solar fans became a nice option. I saw the forward hatch as the most common place for a first solar fan. I added a second fan in the head, and two more at the high points in the cabin. One is above the galley and another is opposite. The boat is much fresher smelling now. Some solar fans can be switched from inside, Exhaust, Off, or Intake. Others need the fan blades to change from exhaust to intake. I have all four set on exhaust and rely on vents and companionway for intake. > > The only time I turn them off is when I'm trying to heat the boat. > > Last thought. I find they keep the boat fresh smelling, but do little to cool the boat at my latitude. Solar fans can't replace AC. The sun is just too powerful and we get a lot of 90plus days each summer so the cabin is usually a little warmer than ambient temperature. It's tough to cool with 90 degree air. They do better after the sun sets and the air cools. > > Chuck > Resolute > 1990 C&C 34R > Atlantic City, NJ > From: "Bev Parslow" <bparslo...@yahoo.ca> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2013 3:24:50 PM > Subject: Stus-List where to put the vent > > Just bought a 4 inch solar powered vent. What is the best place for it? The boat is a 29 mark 2. We could try it on the forward hatch, the non opening acrylic panel in the main cabin, or take out the vent in the head and make it bigger. Are there any other options? > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130804/46 2749ac/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 14:15:42 +0000 (UTC) From: Chuck S <cscheaf...@comcast.net> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Crow vent size Message-ID: <640361290.1165610.1375625742470.javamail.r...@sz0179a.westchester.pa.mail.c omcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" So many choices. There are several brands and nominal 3" and 4" models, but each one is slightly different. Some makers make drop-ins for existing deck plates or dorade vents. Suggest you pick the fan you like first and cut the hole for it. If you have dorades, measure the opening and shop for a fan to fit. Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Atlantic City, NJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Curtis" <cpt.b...@gmail.com> To: CnC-List@cnc-list.com Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2013 9:37:43 AM Subject: Stus-List Crow vent size I w want to purchase some of those white vents for my C&C 30MK1 any body know the size of the holes? -- ?The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.? _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(though surely not OSHA approved) Kim Brown Trust Me!!! 35-3 Message: 4 Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 10:13:36 -0400 From: kelly petew <kellype...@msn.com> To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Stus-List Using a hammer drill to remove corroded fastener Message-ID: <bay173-w23e18acf9b57d8060d53aec1...@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I want to add a "T" track slide to my mast for a whisker pole. The mast tracking is in place, but I can't break the bottom fastener, in order to install the T-Track. Likely, corrosion b/t the fastener and mast is the issue. Has anyone had any experience - good or bad - using a hammer drill to break the corrosion bond?? thanks. Pete W. C&C30 MKII ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 11:07:00 -0400 From: Steve Thomas <sthom...@sympatico.ca> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List where to put the solar fan Message-ID: <blu0-smtp623fbbfa99de1c7c300124bf...@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" The PO of my boat placed a solar vent half way between the mast and the foreward hatch. Can't say that I would have decided to cut such a large hole in the cabin top my self, but it has worked out just fine. It is at a high point, it is in the head, and it looks good from the outside of the boat. Steve Thomas C&C27 MKIII Port Stanley, ON -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Chuck S Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 8:43 AM To: Bev Parslow; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List where to put the solar fan FWIW, I faced the solar fan problem several years ago. I studied the boats at several marinas, especially the newer model boats built after solar fans became a nice option. I saw the forward hatch as the most common place for a first solar fan. I added a second fan in the head, and two more at the high points in the cabin. One is above the galley and another is opposite. The boat is much fresher smelling now. Some solar fans can be switched from inside, Exhaust, Off, or Intake. Others need the fan blades to change from exhaust to intake. I have all four set on exhaust and rely on vents and companionway for intake. The only time I turn them off is when I'm trying to heat the boat. Last thought. I find they keep the boat fresh smelling, but do little to cool the boat at my latitude. Solar fans can't replace AC. The sun is just too powerful and we get a lot of 90plus days each summer so the cabin is usually a little warmer than ambient temperature. It's tough to cool with 90 degree air. They do better after the sun sets and the air cools. 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