Thanks Don and everyone else, so it is my choice except if I use the same surveyor. They are all good suggestions and I will figure one out....
On the drain, I am going to put one in, but there is no direct connection to the bilge, just seepage between hull liner and hull, so I will run a hose and let everyone know how it goes... Thanks ALEX GIANNELIA CC 35-II (1974) WILL BE RENAMED ON THE HARD SINCE NOV. 2006 Toronto Ontario -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com Sent: July 29, 2013 2:20 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: CnC-List Digest, Vol 90, Issue 93 Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to cnc-list@cnc-list.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com You can reach the person managing the list at cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: FW: Anchor Locker II - drain? - Noe 35-3's in Long Island Sound (Indigo) 2. Re: Anchor locker (Don Siddall) 3. Is it time to replace motor mounts? (TOM VINCENT) 4. Re: Re-constructing a HIN (Ronald B. Frerker) 5. Re: Re-constructing a HIN (Ronald B. Frerker) 6. Re: Re-constructing a HIN (Bill Bina) 7. Re: Is it time to replace motor mounts? (Martin DeYoung) 8. Re: Is it time to replace motor mounts? (Andrew Burton) 9. Re: Re-constructing a HIN (Ronald B. Frerker) 10. Re: Re-constructing a HIN (Bill Bina) 11. Re: Re-constructing a HIN (Bill Coleman) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:38:54 -0400 From: Don Siddall <siddal...@gmail.com> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Anchor locker Message-ID: <51f69a9e.6070...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed HI Alex: Based on our experience in the dark of night with a boat about to drift down on us I have about ten feet of 1/4" line connecting the bitter end of the chain anchor rode to a pad eye in my locker. If there is any risk of a boat drifting down on us I place a fender on the foredeck. The theory is that, if needed, I can quickly cut the line then tie it to the fender that I will throw overboard. This way we can depart quickly and pick up the anchor rode later. The light line is only to prevent the anchor chain from departing from the boat unintentionally and to connect the rode to the fender. Don ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:46:33 -0400 From: TOM VINCENT <tvince...@msn.com> To: C&C Forum <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Stus-List Is it time to replace motor mounts? Message-ID: <bay165-w50e33511fec22454ebb5fed...@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The vibration of the Yanmar 30 is annoying and I am thinking of having the motor mounts replaced. Is there any way to determine if the motor mounts are causing the vibration? Tom Vincent Frolic II 36' cb Chesapeake City, MD -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130729/f337971a/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:37:24 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ronald B. Frerker" <rbfrer...@yahoo.com> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Re-constructing a HIN Message-ID: <1375119444.51994.yahoomail...@web122903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Alex, If you're still collecting data, we have a 35-2 here in STL. ?The owner gave me the following info: ?"My boat was built very near the time of the guy raising the issue.? I think my hull number indicates a 1974 model, but it was sold as a 1975 --? I guess because construction was not finished until 1975." The HIN stamped on the starboard stern is: ?CCY353201074. Ron Wild Cheri C&C 30 ________________________________ From: Bill Bina <billb...@sbcglobal.net> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 9:51 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Re-constructing a HIN If it was ever federally documented in the US, you can look it up. By Doc number: http://www.st.nmfs.noaa.gov/st1/CoastGuard/VesselByID.html By name: http://www.st.nmfs.noaa.gov/st1/CoastGuard/VesselByName.html If it was registered only by a state, and not federally documented, you can try here: http://cgmix.uscg.mil/PSIX/PSIXSearch.aspx Bill Bina -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130729/0071dcbf/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:39:47 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ronald B. Frerker" <rbfrer...@yahoo.com> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Re-constructing a HIN Message-ID: <1375119587.95939.yahoomail...@web122906.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" An interesting thing about those links; the vessel name link didn't show my boat, but the CG registration number did. Seems odd since it should be mined from the same database. Ron Wild Cheri C&C 30 St. Louis ________________________________ From: Bill Bina <billb...@sbcglobal.net> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 9:51 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Re-constructing a HIN If it was ever federally documented in the US, you can look it up. By Doc number: http://www.st.nmfs.noaa.gov/st1/CoastGuard/VesselByID.html By name: http://www.st.nmfs.noaa.gov/st1/CoastGuard/VesselByName.html If it was registered only by a state, and not federally documented, you can try here: http://cgmix.uscg.mil/PSIX/PSIXSearch.aspx Bill Bina -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130729/7cf27e26/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:47:11 -0400 From: Bill Bina <billb...@sbcglobal.net> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Re-constructing a HIN Message-ID: <51f6aa9f.5090...@sbcglobal.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" If your documentation is LONG expired, you would be moved to the archive DB. Bill Bina On 7/29/2013 1:39 PM, Ronald B. Frerker wrote: > An interesting thing about those links; the vessel name link didn't > show my boat, but the CG registration number did. > Seems odd since it should be mined from the same database. > Ron > Wild Cheri > C&C 30 > St. Louis > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If you notice extra vibration when in gear it may be that your engine/prop shaft alignment is off enough to cause the extra vibe. I installed the R&D motor mounts from PYI, Inc. and re-aligned a few years back. The R&D mounts replaced mounts that appeared to be over 20 years old (i.e. hard as a rock) and were poorly installed/modified. Immediately there was a significant improvement both at idle and underway. During our recently completed haul out which included replacing the cutlass bearing we performed a complete re-alignment. (The new cutlass bearing changed the prop shaft angle slightly towards the center of the shaft log.) We needed to lower the engine ?" and move it to starboard 3/8". Once re-launched we headed out of the marina and ran some test circles and speed runs. The combo of a new cutlass bearing and the re-alignment decreased the overall vibration to a new low, likely better than we have experienced in the last 10 years. Martin Calypso 1971 C&C 43 Seattle [cid:D1BF9853-22F7-47FB-86F2-4115CE0BAF2F] From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of TOM VINCENT Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 9:47 AM To: C&C Forum Subject: Stus-List Is it time to replace motor mounts? The vibration of the Yanmar 30 is annoying and I am thinking of having the motor mounts replaced. Is there any way to determine if the motor mounts are causing the vibration? Tom Vincent Frolic II 36' cb Chesapeake City, MD -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130729/62f42db5/attachment-0001.html> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Andy C&C 40 Peregrine (currently sailing at 6.8 with the kite up and the breeze just aft of the beam and Provincetown 12 miles ahead) Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 On Jul 29, 2013, at 12:46, TOM VINCENT <tvince...@msn.com> wrote: > The vibration of the Yanmar 30 is annoying and I am thinking of having the > motor mounts replaced. Is there any way to determine if the motor mounts are > causing the vibration? > > Tom Vincent > Frolic II 36' cb > Chesapeake City, MD > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130729/6f8f7947/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:58:19 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ronald B. Frerker" <rbfrer...@yahoo.com> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Re-constructing a HIN Message-ID: <1375120699.78954.yahoomail...@web122902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" And then it would only show up with the CG registration number search??? That could explain some things; like why I don't get the yearly patch any longer. ?I thought it was just an admin change at the CG. Ron ________________________________ From: Bill Bina <billb...@sbcglobal.net> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 12:47 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Re-constructing a HIN If your documentation is LONG expired, you would be moved to the archive DB. Bill Bina On 7/29/2013 1:39 PM, Ronald B. Frerker wrote: An interesting thing about those links; the vessel name link didn't show my boat, but the CG registration number did. >Seems odd since it should be mined from the same database. >Ron >Wild Cheri >C&C 30 >St. Louis > _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130729/5b69ad6b/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:08:40 -0400 From: Bill Bina <billb...@sbcglobal.net> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Re-constructing a HIN Message-ID: <51f6afa8.1090...@sbcglobal.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" All I can tell you is that there is more than one database involved. Owners of documented vessels receive an annual renewal form in the mail that they must send in to keep the documentation active. There is no renewal fee. You just sign the form and mail it back. If you have let your documentation lapse, they have a way for you to apply to have it re-instated for a fee. I believe there is a VERY substantial fine ($10,000) for operating a vessel with a lapsed documentation. If you were documented at one time, and did not file the forms to have the documentation removed, you are liable for the fine. Bill Bina On 7/29/2013 1:58 PM, Ronald B. Frerker wrote: > And then it would only show up with the CG registration number search??? > That could explain some things; like why I don't get the yearly patch > any longer. I thought it was just an admin change at the CG. > Ron > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Bill Bina <billb...@sbcglobal.net> > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Sent:* Monday, July 29, 2013 12:47 PM > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Re-constructing a HIN > > If your documentation is LONG expired, you would be moved to the > archive DB. > > Bill Bina > > On 7/29/2013 1:39 PM, Ronald B. Frerker wrote: >> An interesting thing about those links; the vessel name link didn't >> show my boat, but the CG registration number did. >> Seems odd since it should be mined from the same database. >> Ron >> Wild Cheri >> C&C 30 >> St. Louis >> > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com <http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/> > CnC-List@cnc-list.com <mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If you have let your documentation lapse, they have a way for you to apply to have it re-instated for a fee. I believe there is a VERY substantial fine ($10,000) for operating a vessel with a lapsed documentation. If you were documented at one time, and did not file the forms to have the documentation removed, you are liable for the fine. Bill Bina On 7/29/2013 1:58 PM, Ronald B. Frerker wrote: And then it would only show up with the CG registration number search??? That could explain some things; like why I don't get the yearly patch any longer. I thought it was just an admin change at the CG. Ron _____ From: Bill Bina <mailto:billb...@sbcglobal.net> <billb...@sbcglobal.net> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 12:47 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Re-constructing a HIN If your documentation is LONG expired, you would be moved to the archive DB. Bill Bina On 7/29/2013 1:39 PM, Ronald B. 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