No, and I suspect that what you have is an aftermarket addition as was 
suggested by another poster. 
One thing about a deck stepped mast is that the force of all those stays and 
shrouds makes the mast step a convenient and well fixed strong point for 
securing blocks. 
The brackets on your boat may have been inspired by the attachment points 
sometimes provided on boats with keel stepped masts. 

Steve Thomas
C&C27 MKIII

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Peter Fell
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 1:21 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Boom Vang for C&C 27 Mk III


Thanks Steve

Does your MkIII have the 45-degree brackets as well?

From: Steve Thomas 
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 7:21 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Boom Vang for C&C 27 Mk III

You don't need to use a bail.
Just hook the vang shackle to the stainless steel pin in the U channel that 
confines the mast. 
That's the way my boat was when I got it 12 years ago. 
Seems to be original and it has the advantage of being a bit more centred on 
the mast than your current set-up.
It is still working fine as is and the pin hasn't bent. 
Someday I am going to install a second pin in the rear most set of holes, but I 
still haven't gotten around to it. 
My guess is that the PO of your boat had an unintended jibe when there was a 
pretty good breeze blowing. 

Steve Thomas
C&C27 MKIII

-----Original Message-----
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Peter Fell
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 10:19 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Boom Vang for C&C 27 Mk III


My C&C 27 has a mast-step that looks like this:

http://imageshack.us/a/img191/407/ubt7.jpg

The previous owner had attached the 4:1 purchase boom vang to the 45 degree 
side plate which has resulted in bending the side plate!

It was recommended to me to use a boom/mast bail bolted across the vertical 
portion of the mast-step bracket at the aft-most set of holes, with a bolt and 
filler ‘tube’ to avoid compressing the mast step bracket. Or to replace the aft 
mast-retention pin with the same set-up.

Dimensions of the mast step (‘vertical’ bracket) are:

Outside width = 5 inches
Inside width = 4-1/4 inches
Hole diameter = 7/8 inches
Pin diameter = 5/8 inches

2 problems I am finding:

1) I can’t find a 5-inch wide bail
2) The larger size bails I have found (maybe 4 inch wide is the largest I’ve 
seen?) use a smaller bolt than 5/8 inches and no meat to drill out the holes in 
them, so there would be a lot of ‘slop’ there.

I’m also concerned that if the boom vang can bend that mast-step side plate, 
what’s it going to do to a side-loaded bail and/or the vertical mast-step 
bracket?

So ... perhaps a mast tang / hound?  (much as I hate drilling holes in the mast 
... but multiple holes would spread the load).  I have read somewhere that part 
of the side of the standard C&C mast section is thicker which helps with this 
sort of thing? Can anyone verify? Sorry, didn’t measure the mast width. There’s 
also the sail track there that would complicate a tang / hound installation.

By the way, the previous owner also bent the heck out of the through-bolt on 
the boom bail. I’ve replaced that with a new SS bolt 

Thanks!


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