FWIW, I checked my winch handle today. It's a "Titan by Lewmar" -  Made in
Australia. I sucked in the beercan races but I attributed that to a dirty
bottom, not the winch handle.
Bob M
Ox 33-1
Jax, FL

On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Bob Moriarty <bobmo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have a cheap, red, plastic floating winch handle from West Marine and
> will note if it's a Titan the next time I get to the boat.
> I've been using it for ~2 years on my 33-1 with a 145 genoa and 2-speed
> Bariant 26's.
> It's never come close to disintegrating on me - although I'm not the
> strapping lad I was from years back.
> I like the fact that it doesn't hurt my toes when I drop it.
>
> bob M
> Ox 33-1
> Jax, FL
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 7:00 AM, Hoyt, Mike <mike.h...@impgroup.com> wrote:
>
>> ** ****************
>> Thanks Dwight
>>
>> Just everyone remember - blue Titans are not all the good ones Dwight
>> has.  The crappy floating red one also comes in blue -I have had two blue
>> and one red
>>
>> I use the 8 inch handles on a fractional rigged 27 ft boat.  Much lower
>> loads than on a 35 ft masthead boat.  I do agree they are not super high
>> quality - they are cheap and disposable which is why I have them.  Not
>> enough load on my boat to bend the horizontal handle but have snapped off a
>> hand grip before.
>>
>> Red, Blue the floating ones are all the same ....
>> http://users.eastlink.ca/~mhoyt/Sailing/Haulout_at_BBYC.jpg
>>
>> Yes - the alloy blue one Dwight has is a far superior quality - all but
>> the floating and cheap part
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *dwight
>> veinot
>> *Sent:* Monday, July 08, 2013 5:40 PM
>>
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Titan winch handles
>>
>>  Mike****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I don’t think I am nuts, but I only have experience with the red Titan
>> floating handle.  Mine is labeled as follows “TITAN Made in ****Australia
>> ****, pat pend”.  It came to me with the boat along with about 8 other
>> winch handles, some the old heavy Barient ones, a few of which were lockers
>> so I had never used it in 9 years until last week…3 handles are more than
>> enough on my boat and one like the red Titan floater that I had definitely
>> classifies as junk on any boat.  It had no reinforcing fibers of any sort
>> inside the foam in the handle; in fact the foam looked very much like
>> polyurethane insulation foam like the kind sold in a spray can which is
>> used around doors and windows to stop drafts…but it’s not just the foam
>> filled handle that is the issue, it’s also the locking mechanism which
>> appears to be a plastic covered piece of thin brass or bronze sheet metal
>> and the plastic appears to extend as a tube or bar all the way up to the
>> locking release lever…this twists under loading when the handle flexes and
>> accidentally goes out of plane placing some vertical loading on the locking
>> mechanism which easily releases from the winch and then when you’re not
>> expecting that too happen if you are not holding the handle tightly enough
>> the handle can launch right out of your hand and go flying on its own.
>> Quite seriously I can not and would not recommend using this type of Titan
>> floating handle for any purpose on any boat period.  I will always be
>> careful about using any Titan handle on any boat I ever sail on.   This
>> product did a serious disservice to the reputation of other Titan products
>> for me.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Mike Hoyt if you have been satisfied with your 8 inch unit good for you…I
>> guess the name of your boat says it all!!!  I just do not see the sense of
>> a winch handle which is purposefully made so weak as to be useless under
>> load and a possible hazard just so that it floats and sells at a cheaper
>> price…IMHO this is not a good application of plastic and foam.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Again everyone, please be careful about using such Titan winch handles,
>> regardless of what colour they are****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Dwight Veinot****
>>
>> C&C 35 MKII, Alianna****
>>
>> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS****
>>
>> ** **
>>  ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Hoyt,
>> Mike
>> *Sent:* July 8, 2013 1:34 PM
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Titan winch handles****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> you guys are nuts.  The floating ones are not all red - they come in
>> several colours including blue****
>>
>> ** **
>>  ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Rick
>> Brass
>> *Sent:* Monday, July 08, 2013 12:16 PM
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Titan winch handles****
>>
>> My understanding is that the red ones are resin filled with glass fibers,
>> the blue ones are cast aluminum (see Dwight’s post), and the gray ones are
>> resin and carbon fiber.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I have had gray Titan handles on my 38 – a single handle grip for the
>> cabin top winches and a single handle in a pocket on the mast for reefing
>> and outhaul, and two of the double grip 10” handles in the cockpit for the
>> sheet winches – for almost 10 years now. I have to say I’m quite happy with
>> the strength and durability of the gray handles. ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> That said, a crew member dropped on overboard during an event in
>> Oriental, NC some years ago; it floated but we didn’t go back for it. I
>> suppose that is benefit the benefit and the disappointment of having a
>> floating winch handle that only costs about $50.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Rick Brass****
>>
>> ****Washington**, **NC********
>>
>> ** **
>>
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