I can't really help with your decision, but I would like to correct the 
"happiest day" nonsense. I've rarely been more heartbroken than when I watched 
someone else leave with my much-loved boat. In addition to Peregrine, I still 
have a 30-foot daysailer I can't bear to part with because she's such an 
exquisite boat to sail and look at and she's been a huge part of my life for 18 
years.
Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI 
USA    02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

On May 29, 2013, at 0:29, Russ & Melody <russ...@telus.net> wrote:

> Hi Mark,
> 
> As you already know there is no simple answer. 
> 
> But here are the dimension for the perfect boat:
> Cocktails for 6
> Dinner for 4
> Sleeps 2
> Seriously, 30' is ideal for light sailing with a weekend & a bit away. Bigger 
> gets more toys tolerated and comfort underway (especially if you actually go 
> sailing if it's windy). For 20 grand your best bet is the one that has been 
> maintained (vs say, size weighted consideration) so to get the best value. 
> Good sails can be the difference in the bargain... only 3 new cruising sails 
> are a minimum 6 grand from the orient.
> 
> Personally I went from a 60' cruising cutter to a 35 mk-1 and love her. 
> However I have a 40' motor-sailor sitting in the back yard awaiting my 
> semi-retirement where I can spend 4 5 months aboard, cruising the west coast.
> 
> Your mileage may vary. Enjoy the hunt.
> 
>         Cheers, Russ 
>         Sweet 35 mk-1
> 
> At 09:01 PM 28/05/2013, you wrote:
> 
>> I'm still looking at boats, reading emails from this list and learning lots. 
>>  Right now I'm sitting back, watching the market, looking to new boats that 
>> come up, and trying to figure out where I want to end up.  
>> Maybe some more experienced listers can offer some thoughts (on or off list).
>> 
>> I know that everyone has there own criteria - but I'm trying to figure out 
>> the right boat for me.  My Mirage 24 is quite small - 5ft of headroom (only 
>> my 8 yr old can stand up), not enough space to sleep 5 (me and 4 kids), 
>> lacks an enclosed head, no functional galley, noisy and smelly outboard.
>> I envision wanting to do some more sailing - little further out of the 
>> harbour, some overnights (effectively boat camping with the kids), maybe a 
>> long weekend away with the girlfriend.
>> 
>> But we've all heard the cracks "2 best days in a boater life - the day 
>> he/she buys their boat, and the day they sell it", or "A boat is a hole in 
>> the water you pour money into" - not really encouraging. So, why, if they 
>> are so terrible does everyone get 2 foot itis?
>> 
>> Feel free to espouse on why did you end up with the boat you have? Do you 
>> wish you stayed smaller/cheaper/simpler?
>> What would you say to yourself if you could go back and offer advice? Was 
>> this the best decision ever?  If you could make a change what do you want? A 
>> bigger galley? Bigger cockpit?
>> 
>> My temptation was to find a 29-30 foot boat that would work, thinking that 
>> would last me for years with the kids and still be a manageable size when 
>> they are off.  Keeping costs reasonable, maintenance manageable and enough 
>> boat to venture further afield.
>> 
>> Right now I could buy a local C&C 33 (with and Atomic4), or a local C&C 30 
>> (diesel), or there are 29's, 30's and 34's within reach - the prices are 
>> similar.  I plan on climbing aboard a few different boats to get a feel for 
>> size and space, but I'm trying to figure out what I'm getting into without 
>> having to learn the painfully hard way!  I'm leaning towards a diesel (only 
>> because that seems to be common opinion and gas on my current boat has it's 
>> downsides), wheel steering and something fairly stable (so kids and 
>> girlfriend aren't barfing over the side -- which I gather eliminates the 
>> 29's from the list).  Price wise I'd like to stay below $20000.
>> 
>> I have the cash set aside to buy the boat, but clearly bigger is not always 
>> better, the maintenance and insidious upkeep costs can add up quickly.  I 
>> was able to do a quick sand and bottom paint on my M24 in 2.5 hrs.  Assuming 
>> the cost and workload multiply with the displacement I'm guessing a 30ft 
>> (being twice the displacement) would be double the effort, a 34ft 3 times 
>> the work.  At what point is it more work and you wish for a smaller/cheaper 
>> boat?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance for the advice,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> ---------------------
>>   Dr. Mark Bodnar
>> B.Sc., D.C., FCCOPR(C)
>> Bedford Chiropractic
>> www.bedfordchiro.ca
>> ---------------------
>> 
>> There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval.
>>   - George Santayana
>> 
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