A friend of mine had a similar problem on his motorsailor. He had overheating 
problems, so took it to the mechanics at the yard in Key Largo for its usual 
bottom job and the motor work. Cored out the heat exchanger, ran through the 
whole water system (has a trans cooler in line as well) and dropped it back in 
the water. Ran great, great water flow at the dock, so we took it out. About a 
mile out, overheating! No water. Back in, check everything again. Ran it at the 
dock, great flow, put a load on it, great flow, ran for about half an hour at 
cruising rpm with load, great flow. Took it back out - lasted a mile.... back 
in again.

It turned out that there was a small air leak in the raw water strainer, as Bob 
said. Why it would run at the dock and be OK, and not at the same rpm out in 
the ocean is still a mystery, but my friend (after blowing a good sailing week) 
decided a new water straining system with better gasket sealing was in order.

All is well.

Gary
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Robert Abbott 
  To: Dennis C. ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 10:56 PM
  Subject: Stus-List Overheating 3GMD - the plot thickens


  Don:

  One more thing to check.....check to see that your 'o-ring seal' on your raw 
water strainer is tight .....if it isn't, your water cooling system will suck 
in air and not enough water to cool your engine.

  If you take the top off the strainer out to clean it, you might not have put 
it back together tight enough.  How do I know this?  Daa!

  Bob Abbott
  AZURA
  C&C 32 - 84
  Halifax, N.S.  



  On 2013/05/23 11:13 PM, Dennis C. wrote:

    Good suggestion from Rich.  Even a new impeller can spin.  

    Also, there may be a suction leak on the intake side of the pump.  
Disconnect the discharge at the pump.  Start the engine and check for flow 
there.  (It won't hurt the engine to run a couple minutes with no water flow.)  
Try to stop the flow by blocking the hose with a rag or your hand.  If the flow 
and pressure are good, move downstream.  If no flow or you can stop the flow 
then the issue is the pump or ahead of the pump.

    If the flow is good, disconnect the hose to the little elbow you cleaned.  
Check for flow and pressure there.  

    Dennis C.
    Touche' 35-1 #83
    Mandeville, LA






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      From: Knowles Rich <r...@sailpower.ca>
      To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
      Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 8:35 PM
      Subject: Re: Stus-List Overheating 3GMD - the plot thickens



      Suggest checking the raw water pump impellor to make sure the bronze 
insert is not spinning inside the rubber impellor. This can happen with a new 
or old unit and can fool you in an inspection as the rubber vanes may look 
perfect. 


      Rich Knowles
      Indigo. LF38
      Halifax

      On 2013-05-23, at 22:00, "Don Jonsson" <dbjons...@shaw.ca> wrote:


      Hi

      I had previously sent out a  message about an overheating diesel.  The 
culprit, so I thought, was the knuckle going into the mixing elbow, because 
generally when I cleaned it, it worked again.  For a while.

      So I finally took of the mixing elbow and gave everything a proper 
cleaning.  I checked the water pump.  I checked all hoses by blowing through 
them and the engine.    

      I put it all back together and it all worked and water pumped like it is 
supposed to, except the water pump leaked a bit - needed a new gasket, but I 
knew that and just wanted to see if it would work.  Got a new gasket and put it 
on.  Started up and no water.

      I took out the thermostat and checked to see it worked - slightly 
corroded but it worked, i.e. opened in hot water.  Put everything back together 
and started it up and a bit of water but too much steam.  Took the thermostat 
out and put it in more carefully.  Tried again, water running, no steam 
everything is perfect.  Ran it for a while just to be sure.

      Turned it off.  Waited a while (an hour) and started it up again.  No 
water.

      So the problem is not the mixing elbow (and likely never was as it wasn't 
that bad).  Not the pump as it looks fine.  Not the thermostat - I don't think 
although I will replace it.  

      The problem is sometimes the engine pumps water and sometimes not.   And 
I'm stumped. 

      This is a raw water cooled engine which makes things different.  Has 
anyone had a similar problem and ideas for a solution.

      Also, it seems hard to get part numbers for a 3GMD and the local mechanic 
had to go find an old book.  Is there any place online to find part numbers for 
that engine?

      Thanks to anyone that can help.
      Don

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