Russ is correct. With proper care, clean fuel, regular air cleaner changes,
etc.  10.000 hours is attainable. In the forklift business, we routinely saw
16,000 or so hours out of the 4 cylinder Yanmars we used in the smaller
trucks.

 

Regarding the cost of an injector service, The last injector service on my
previous engine (PO saved $300 on the exhaust installation, and cost me $8k
for a replacement engine) was about $275 for four injectors.

 

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Russ &
Melody
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 11:19 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Overheating due to plugged knuckle

 

Hi Don,

The black junk that plugs the mixing elbow can certainly be unburned carbon
from a bad injector. A Yanmar that has only 1800 is a long way from the
5,000  hours you can get from an abused one these puppies. 10,000 hours is
attainable with decent care. It probably just needs servicing, not replacing
or a rebuild. 

My advice is get a guy to remove the injectors and bring them up to Nanaimo
to have 'em serviced/rebuilt by Floyd at Action Fuel Injection. He is the
best diesel fuel system dude on Vancouver Island. I think the latest guess
is $100 - 150  per injector... but maybe phone Floyd for a chat.

        Cheers, Russ
        Sweet 35 mk-1

At 10:28 AM 14/05/2013, you wrote:



Hi Kim

Thanks for this.  It is what I'm worried about.  The boat has started to
blow extra smoke on start and I'm thinking unburned diesel. It also blows
smoke when you idle down for a bit and then rev up again.  Once warmed up it
seems fine. I've got a mechanic coming in a couple of weeks (they are backed
up here in Victoria).

What I worry about is the slippery slope on an old engine.  It is 1981 with
around 1800 hours and raw water cooled.  It runs fairly nicely but.....  I
also worry about the cost of a new engine which would not materially change
the value of the boat - as people were saying earlier - boats cheap, parts
expensive.

How many boat units did getting the injectors cost if you don't mind
sharing.  

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: Kim Brown [ mailto:kimcbr...@comcast.net
<mailto:kimcbr...@comcast.net> ] 
Sent: May-13-13 2:50 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Overheating due to plugged knuckle


Don
Just went through this with my 3GMF30. Had Diesel Dan (really) out because
we are headed to the Abacos next month. (anyone going to be there for
Regatta Time?) I was suspicious of injectors- boat was running but xtra
smoke on start, oily exhaust water.  So better here than there. Had the
injectors rebuilt and as part of the looksie he checked elbow and assorted
other potential trouble spots.  The knuckle was almost closed with gunk and
was replaced. Never did overheat but that may be more because there is flow
tapped off for my dripless allowing some flow to continue besides the meager
amount still passing through the knuckle. The injector rebuild really worked
wonders- thought it was running ok before but now smoke is minimal, pops
right off, runs cooler and smoother. My guess is the gunk was unburnt fuel
building up. Your mileage may vary but that is another path to explore.....
I had replaced the elbow about a year ago and the knuckle was fine then so
it built up relatively quickly. And I haven't sucked an impeller lately (on
my FWC the vanes hang up at the front end of the heat exchanger and are a
PITA to extract). 

Kim Brown
Trust Me 35-3  

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Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 10:44:51 -0700
From: "Don Jonsson" <dbjons...@shaw.ca>
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Subject: Stus-List Overheating due to plugged knuckle
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Hello all

 

I have an elderly Yanmar 3GMD engine that is raw water cooled.  It has
plugged twice in the last two years where the water goes through a knuckle
into the mixing elbow.  The first time (summer before last) was some solid
bit that had gotten stuck - how it got there I don't know.  The last time
(last week) was due to a tar like substance gumming up the knuckle.  Easy to
clear and I was on my way, but is this a harbinger of something more
serious.

 

I took the mixing elbow off a few years back and cleaned it, guess it is
time to do that again.  

 

Is the plugging coming from the exhaust and working its way into the knuckle
- for example unburned diesel?

 

Thanks for any insight.

 

Don






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