OK my two cents in the subject - if the main loads up in heavy wind/seas and you don't release the end boom preventer quickly... you can break the boom - snap! I went with the Wichard Gybe Easy system on a gulf crossing last year and really like idea of a controlled Gybe vs relying on manual method. You can also make your own if you have a couple of snap shackles and a climbing gadget used for similar line tensioning idea. Just sayin..
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Re: Gybe preventer (Joel Aronson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 11:39:33 -0400 > From: David Risch <davidrisc...@msn.com> > To: CNC CNC <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Gybe preventer > Message-ID: <blu174-w15a09af1d8cc9626beec52da...@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Again Ditto. > > I have the same arrangement. It allows easy attachment/detachment on the boat > in a safe position in lieu of trying to secure at end of boom or at the bow. > Mine also adjusts from boom. > > Although I have low tech dacron, not the fancy smancy Dyneema... > > David F. Risch > 1981 40-2 > (401) 419-4650 (cell) > > > From: a.burton.sai...@gmail.com > Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 11:32:55 -0400 > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Gybe preventer > > One thing I've seen on boats that run a lot or have high, long booms, is a > permanently rigged piece of Dynema attached at the end of the boom and run > forward to the a snap-shackle at the gooseneck. That way it's easy to rig a > preventer to the bow when the sheets are already eased; just release the line > from the end of the boom and snap it to the preventer from the bow. If > running to the bow, I will usually just run the preventer through the mooring > line fairlead...with appropriate chafe protection if it's going to be rigged > for more than a few hours. > > > > Andy > C&C 40 > Peregrine > > > On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 11:16 AM, David Risch <davidrisc...@msn.com> wrote: > > > > > > Ditto what Andy said... > > And when in ocean I run two preventers - port and starboard to the bow and > back to cockpit winches. All lines, blocks are of stout sizing. Loads can > be enormous. > > > > That way in sloppy conditions you have a "controlled " jibe. > > David F. Risch > 1981 40-2 > (401) 419-4650 (cell) > > > > > From: a.burton.sai...@gmail.com > Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 10:16:35 -0400 > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > > Subject: Re: Stus-List Gybe preventer > > Personally, I like to have one as close to the end of the boom as > possible--all the way from the end to the bow, if I'm running. Think about > the forces on the boom when the preventer stops an accidental gybe; they are > not straight down, which is how the boom is strongest. The forces are more > from the side (because the preventer is led forward to hold the boom in one > place), which is the weakest part of the boom. Another thing to consider is > that if at all possible, you should lead your preventer inside your lifelines > so you don't wipe out or bend a couple of stanchions if you gybe. All that > being said, it's kind of difficult to find a place near the end of the boom > if you don't have a loose-footed main so the preventer will probably be > attached at the mainsheet bail. > > > > > I use a preventer pretty much all he time my sheets are eased, even in light > stuff, a powerboat wake can cause the boom to swing into the back of a head. > I wouldn't go with anything too stretchy; Dacron is fine. I usually use a > single line from the boom to a block on the rail and back to a winch, so it's > easy to adjust when I trim the sails. > > > > > > > Andy > C&C 40 > Peregrine > > > On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > The doctor who spoke at the Safety at Sea seminar said the #1 thing you can > do to prevent injury is to rig a gybe preventer. My mainsheet sheets > mid-boom. I know you need a rope with stretch to absorb shock. > > > > > > I was thinking of making a preventer as follows:Dyneema loop around the boom > just aft of the mainsheet blocks. 3 strand nylon with snap shackles to > attach to the loop and toe rail. Is that too simple? Should it run through > a block to a cleat or clutch? > > > > > > -- > Joel 35/3Annapolis > 301 541 8551 > > > _______________________________________________ > > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > > > -- > Andrew Burton > 61 W Narragansett Ave > Newport, RI > USA 02840 > http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ > > > > > phone +401 965 5260 > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > _______________________________________________ > > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > > > -- > Andrew Burton > 61 W Narragansett Ave > Newport, RI > USA 02840 > http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ > > > phone +401 965 5260 > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130510/96a84eb0/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 12:45:53 -0300 > From: dwight veinot <dwightvei...@hfx.eastlink.ca> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Gybe preventer > Message-ID: <6EBB07B912484708BD9AA1A932E30E7B@your4dacd0ea75> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I never thought of running the preventer all the way to the bow. On my 35 > MKII which has a high aspect ratio main sail on a 12'3" boom I simply attach > the preventer (my boom vang mostly) to the toe rail and tension with a > mechanical advantage of 4. C&C toe rails are strong enough for jib leads so > I figured they would be strong enough for the preventer. I have not sailed > the boat in winds above 30-35 true but maybe under heavier conditions I > would want a different set up, but actually nowadays for my sailing pleasure > any winds above 25 kts true the main sail is packed and covered. Never once > did I feel boom integrity or any other attachment was at intolerable risk. > > > > Dwight Veinot > > C&C 35 MKII, Alianna > > Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS > > > > _____ > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Andrew > Burton > Sent: May 10, 2013 12:33 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Gybe preventer > > > > One thing I've seen on boats that run a lot or have high, long booms, is a > permanently rigged piece of Dynema attached at the end of the boom and run > forward to the a snap-shackle at the gooseneck. That way it's easy to rig a > preventer to the bow when the sheets are already eased; just release the > line from the end of the boom and snap it to the preventer from the bow. If > running to the bow, I will usually just run the preventer through the > mooring line fairlead...with appropriate chafe protection if it's going to > be rigged for more than a few hours. > > Andy > > C&C 40 > Peregrine > > > > On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 11:16 AM, David Risch <davidrisc...@msn.com> wrote: > > Ditto what Andy said... > > And when in ocean I run two preventers - port and starboard to the bow and > back to cockpit winches. All lines, blocks are of stout sizing. Loads > can be enormous. > > That way in sloppy conditions you have a "controlled " jibe. > > David F. Risch > 1981 40-2 > (401) <tel:%28401%29%20419-4650> 419-4650 (cell) > > > > _____ > > From: a.burton.sai...@gmail.com > Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 10:16:35 -0400 > > > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Gybe preventer > > Personally, I like to have one as close to the end of the boom as > possible--all the way from the end to the bow, if I'm running. Think about > the forces on the boom when the preventer stops an accidental gybe; they are > not straight down, which is how the boom is strongest. The forces are more > from the side (because the preventer is led forward to hold the boom in one > place), which is the weakest part of the boom. Another thing to consider is > that if at all possible, you should lead your preventer inside your > lifelines so you don't wipe out or bend a couple of stanchions if you gybe. > All that being said, it's kind of difficult to find a place near the end of > the boom if you don't have a loose-footed main so the preventer will > probably be attached at the mainsheet bail. > > I use a preventer pretty much all he time my sheets are eased, even in light > stuff, a powerboat wake can cause the boom to swing into the back of a head. > I wouldn't go with anything too stretchy; Dacron is fine. I usually use a > single line from the boom to a block on the rail and back to a winch, so > it's easy to adjust when I trim the sails. > > > > Andy > > C&C 40 > > Peregrine > > > > On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > The doctor who spoke at the Safety at Sea seminar said the #1 thing you can > do to prevent injury is to rig a gybe preventer. My mainsheet sheets > mid-boom. I know you need a rope with stretch to absorb shock. > > > > I was thinking of making a preventer as follows: > > Dyneema loop around the boom just aft of the mainsheet blocks. 3 strand > nylon with snap shackles to attach to the loop and toe rail. Is that too > simple? Should it run through a block to a cleat or clutch? > > > > > -- > Joel > > 35/3 > > Annapolis > 301 541 8551 > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > > > -- > Andrew Burton > 61 W Narragansett Ave > Newport, RI > USA 02840 > http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ > phone +401 965 5260 > > > _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the > C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > > > -- > Andrew Burton > 61 W Narragansett Ave > Newport, RI > USA 02840 > http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ > phone +401 965 5260 > > _____ > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2241 / Virus Database: 3162/5813 - Release Date: 05/10/13 > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130510/6d6b6157/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 11:48:40 -0400 > From: Andrew Burton <a.burton.sai...@gmail.com> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Gybe preventer > Message-ID: > <cagafpmz+temwf8icmbg3svgm6nnr8o9dpzyynpwjv0uahzh...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Really, David, Dacron is so 20th century. > > > On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 11:39 AM, David Risch <davidrisc...@msn.com> wrote: > >> Again Ditto. >> >> I have the same arrangement. It allows easy attachment/detachment on the >> boat in a safe position in lieu of trying to secure at end of boom or at >> the bow. Mine also adjusts from boom. >> >> Although I have low tech dacron, not the fancy smancy Dyneema... >> >> >> David F. Risch >> 1981 40-2 >> (401) 419-4650 (cell) >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> From: a.burton.sai...@gmail.com >> Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 11:32:55 -0400 >> >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> Subject: Re: Stus-List Gybe preventer >> >> One thing I've seen on boats that run a lot or have high, long booms, is a >> permanently rigged piece of Dynema attached at the end of the boom and run >> forward to the a snap-shackle at the gooseneck. That way it's easy to rig a >> preventer to the bow when the sheets are already eased; just release the >> line from the end of the boom and snap it to the preventer from the bow. If >> running to the bow, I will usually just run the preventer through the >> mooring line fairlead...with appropriate chafe protection if it's going to >> be rigged for more than a few hours. >> >> Andy >> C&C 40 >> Peregrine >> >> >> On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 11:16 AM, David Risch <davidrisc...@msn.com>wrote: >> >> Ditto what Andy said... >> >> And when in ocean I run two preventers - port and starboard to the bow and >> back to cockpit winches. All lines, blocks are of stout sizing. Loads >> can be enormous. >> >> That way in sloppy conditions you have a "controlled " jibe. >> >> David F. Risch >> 1981 40-2 >> (401) 419-4650 (cell) >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> From: a.burton.sai...@gmail.com >> Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 10:16:35 -0400 >> >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> Subject: Re: Stus-List Gybe preventer >> >> Personally, I like to have one as close to the end of the boom as >> possible--all the way from the end to the bow, if I'm running. Think about >> the forces on the boom when the preventer stops an accidental gybe; they >> are not straight down, which is how the boom is strongest. The forces are >> more from the side (because the preventer is led forward to hold the boom >> in one place), which is the weakest part of the boom. Another thing to >> consider is that if at all possible, you should lead your preventer inside >> your lifelines so you don't wipe out or bend a couple of stanchions if you >> gybe. All that being said, it's kind of difficult to find a place near the >> end of the boom if you don't have a loose-footed main so the preventer will >> probably be attached at the mainsheet bail. >> I use a preventer pretty much all he time my sheets are eased, even in >> light stuff, a powerboat wake can cause the boom to swing into the back of >> a head. I wouldn't go with anything too stretchy; Dacron is fine. I usually >> use a single line from the boom to a block on the rail and back to a winch, >> so it's easy to adjust when I trim the sails. >> >> >> Andy >> C&C 40 >> Peregrine >> >> >> On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >> The doctor who spoke at the Safety at Sea seminar said the #1 thing you >> can do to prevent injury is to rig a gybe preventer. My mainsheet sheets >> mid-boom. I know you need a rope with stretch to absorb shock. >> >> I was thinking of making a preventer as follows: >> Dyneema loop around the boom just aft of the mainsheet blocks. 3 strand >> nylon with snap shackles to attach to the loop and toe rail. Is that too >> simple? Should it run through a block to a cleat or clutch? >> >> -- >> Joel >> 35/3 >> Annapolis >> 301 541 8551 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Andrew Burton >> 61 W Narragansett Ave >> Newport, RI >> USA 02840 >> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ >> phone +401 965 5260 >> >> _______________________________________________ This List is provided by >> the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Andrew Burton >> 61 W Narragansett Ave >> Newport, RI >> USA 02840 >> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ >> phone +401 965 5260 >> >> _______________________________________________ This List is provided by >> the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > -- > Andrew Burton > 61 W Narragansett Ave > Newport, RI > USA 02840 > http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ > phone +401 965 5260 > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130510/9cea6508/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 11:51:10 -0400 > From: David Risch <davidrisc...@msn.com> > To: CNC CNC <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Gybe preventer > Message-ID: <blu174-w7e8ca20ccedd3953978d3da...@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Dwight, > > For local conditions you are mostly good. In fact I just snap shackle my > boom line to rail and adjust from boom when bopping around in relatively > benign conditions. > > Its when you are offshore, or in heavy local conditions, when waves are > piling up and the boom can be stuffed into a wave (loading up mid-boom > sheeting and breaking boom/gear etc.) or an uncontrollable jibe sets up loads > that would tax the "to rail" set-up. The angles are too acute versus going to > the bow. > > Its never the dang wind that causes problems...its those pesky waves. > > David F. Risch > 1981 40-2 > (401) 419-4650 (cell) > > > From: dwightvei...@hfx.eastlink.ca > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 12:45:53 -0300 > Subject: Re: Stus-List Gybe preventer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I never thought of running the preventer > all the way to the bow. On my 35 MKII which has a high aspect ratio main sail > on a 12?3? boom I simply attach the preventer (my boom vang mostly) > to the toe rail and tension with a mechanical advantage of 4. C&C toe > rails are strong enough for jib leads so I figured they would be strong enough > for the preventer. I have not sailed the boat in winds above 30-35 true but > maybe under heavier conditions I would want a different set up, but actually > nowadays for my sailing pleasure any winds above 25 kts true the main sail is > packed and covered. Never once did I feel boom integrity or any other > attachment was at intolerable risk. > > > > > > Dwight Veinot > > C&C 35 MKII, Alianna > > Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: CnC-List > [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On > Behalf Of Andrew Burton > > Sent: May 10, 2013 12:33 PM > > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > Subject: Re: Stus-List Gybe > preventer > > > > > > > > > > > > One thing I've seen on boats that run a lot or have > high, long booms, is a permanently rigged piece of Dynema attached at the end > of the boom and run forward to the a snap-shackle at the gooseneck. That way > it's easy to rig a preventer to the bow when the sheets are already eased; > just > release the line from the end of the boom and snap it to the preventer from > the > bow. If running to the bow, I will usually just run the preventer through the > mooring line fairlead...with appropriate chafe protection if it's going to be > rigged for more than a few hours. > > > > Andy > > > > C&C 40 > > Peregrine > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 10, 2013 at > 11:16 AM, David Risch <davidrisc...@msn.com> > wrote: > > > > > > Ditto what Andy said... > > > > And when in ocean I run two preventers - port and starboard to the bow and > back > to cockpit winches. All lines, blocks are of stout sizing. > Loads can be enormous. > > > > That way in sloppy conditions you have a "controlled " jibe. > > > > David F. Risch > > 1981 40-2 > > (401) > 419-4650 (cell) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: a.burton.sai...@gmail.com > > Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 10:16:35 -0400 > > > > > > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > Subject: Re: Stus-List Gybe preventer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Personally, I like to > have one as close to the end of the boom as possible--all the way from the end > to the bow, if I'm running. Think about the forces on the boom when the > preventer stops an accidental gybe; they are not straight down, which is how > the boom is strongest. The forces are more from the side (because the > preventer > is led forward to hold the boom in one place), which is the weakest part of > the > boom. Another thing to consider is that if at all possible, you should lead > your preventer inside your lifelines so you don't wipe out or bend a couple of > stanchions if you gybe. All that being said, it's kind of difficult to find a > place near the end of the boom if you don't have a loose-footed main so the > preventer will probably be attached at the mainsheet bail. > > > > I use a preventer pretty much all he time my sheets > are eased, even in light stuff, a powerboat wake can cause the boom to swing > into the back of a head. I wouldn't go with anything too stretchy; Dacron is > fine. I usually use a single line from the boom to a block on the rail and > back > to a winch, so it's easy to adjust when I trim the sails. > > > > > > > > Andy > > > > C&C 40 > > > > Peregrine > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 10, 2013 at > 8:56 AM, Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > The doctor who spoke at > the Safety at Sea seminar said the #1 thing you can do to prevent injury is to > rig a gybe preventer. My mainsheet sheets mid-boom. I know you need > a rope with stretch to absorb shock. > > > > > > > > > > I was thinking of making > a preventer as follows: > > > > > > Dyneema loop around the > boom just aft of the mainsheet blocks. 3 strand nylon with snap shackles > to attach to the loop and toe rail. Is that too simple? Should it > run through a block to a cleat or clutch? > > > > > > > > > -- > > Joel > > > > > > 35/3 > > > > > > Annapolis > > 301 541 8551 > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > > > > > > > -- > > Andrew Burton > > 61 W Narragansett Ave > > Newport, RI > > USA > 02840 > > http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ > > phone +401 965 5260 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the > C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > > > > > > > -- > > Andrew Burton > > 61 W Narragansett Ave > > Newport, RI > > USA > 02840 > > http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ > > phone +401 965 5260 > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 2012.0.2241 / Virus Database: 3162/5813 - Release Date: 05/10/13 > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130510/c2d10cf0/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 11:52:41 -0400 > From: Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com> > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Gybe preventer > Message-ID: <-5666490872717239406@unknownmsgid> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Thanks guys! I could make a bridle that runs through the 3 rings that that > the mainsheet blocks attach to to spread the load. You guys are awesome! > > Joel Aronson > > > On May 10, 2013, at 11:40 AM, David Risch <davidrisc...@msn.com> wrote: > > Again Ditto. > > I have the same arrangement. It allows easy attachment/detachment on the > boat in a safe position in lieu of trying to secure at end of boom or at > the bow. Mine also adjusts from boom. > > Although I have low tech dacron, not the fancy smancy Dyneema... > > David F. Risch > 1981 40-2 > (401) 419-4650 (cell) > > > ------------------------------ > From: a.burton.sai...@gmail.com > Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 11:32:55 -0400 > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Gybe preventer > > One thing I've seen on boats that run a lot or have high, long booms, is a > permanently rigged piece of Dynema attached at the end of the boom and run > forward to the a snap-shackle at the gooseneck. That way it's easy to rig a > preventer to the bow when the sheets are already eased; just release the > line from the end of the boom and snap it to the preventer from the bow. If > running to the bow, I will usually just run the preventer through the > mooring line fairlead...with appropriate chafe protection if it's going to > be rigged for more than a few hours. > > Andy > C&C 40 > Peregrine > > > On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 11:16 AM, David Risch <davidrisc...@msn.com> wrote: > > Ditto what Andy said... > > And when in ocean I run two preventers - port and starboard to the bow and > back to cockpit winches. All lines, blocks are of stout sizing. Loads > can be enormous. > > That way in sloppy conditions you have a "controlled " jibe. > > David F. Risch > 1981 40-2 > (401) 419-4650 (cell) > > > ------------------------------ > From: a.burton.sai...@gmail.com > Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 10:16:35 -0400 > > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Gybe preventer > > Personally, I like to have one as close to the end of the boom as > possible--all the way from the end to the bow, if I'm running. Think about > the forces on the boom when the preventer stops an accidental gybe; they > are not straight down, which is how the boom is strongest. The forces are > more from the side (because the preventer is led forward to hold the boom > in one place), which is the weakest part of the boom. Another thing to > consider is that if at all possible, you should lead your preventer inside > your lifelines so you don't wipe out or bend a couple of stanchions if you > gybe. All that being said, it's kind of difficult to find a place near the > end of the boom if you don't have a loose-footed main so the preventer will > probably be attached at the mainsheet bail. > I use a preventer pretty much all he time my sheets are eased, even in > light stuff, a powerboat wake can cause the boom to swing into the back of > a head. I wouldn't go with anything too stretchy; Dacron is fine. I usually > use a single line from the boom to a block on the rail and back to a winch, > so it's easy to adjust when I trim the sails. > > > Andy > C&C 40 > Peregrine > > > On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com>wrote: > > The doctor who spoke at the Safety at Sea seminar said the #1 thing you can > do to prevent injury is to rig a gybe preventer. My mainsheet sheets > mid-boom. I know you need a rope with stretch to absorb shock. > > I was thinking of making a preventer as follows: > Dyneema loop around the boom just aft of the mainsheet blocks. 3 strand > nylon with snap shackles to attach to the loop and toe rail. Is that too > simple? 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