Vc 17 in cold weather.
I put mine on two weeks ago in 40 F degrees. All went well. The warmer it is 
the faster it seems to evaporate. There are no temperature notes on the can. I 
don't think I'd do it if its below freezing.

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>   4.  primer on unpainted gelcoat (Eric Frank)
>   5. Re:  - Handrail heartbreak; handrail covers
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>   6. Re:  ?- Handrail heartbreak; handrail covers (Dennis C.)
>   7. Re:  primer on unpainted gelcoat (Josh Muckley)
>   8. Re:  primer on unpainted gelcoat (Knowles Rich)
>   9. Re:  - Handrail heartbreak (Chuck S)
>  10. Re:  primer on unpainted gelcoat (djhaug...@juno.com)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 21:44:53 -0400
> From: "D.Drake" <d...@rogers.com>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List - Handrail heartbreak
> Message-ID: <516dfe95.3020...@rogers.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> I thought I did have some photos but I guesss that was a computer crash 
> ago .
> I will be at the boat this weekend and take a few pics and post them
> 
> I made them myself from 1" ss tubing and SS standoff fittings
> Took 4- 10 ft lengths and bent them to a slight curve to match the cabin 
> top curve
> Cut them to length so that I had 2 long exterior rails and 2 shorter 
> interior rails .
> I matched the standoffs ,inside to outside and thru bolted the standoffs 
> to each other ,much like the original teak rails but much stronger.
> I did seal the thru bolts with butly tape and have no leaks for 3 years now
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 16/04/2013 8:04 AM, djhaug...@juno.com wrote:
>> Really?
>> 
>> Got any photos?  That was suggested by another Viking owner.
>> 
>> Danny
>> ---------- Original Message ----------
>> From: "D.Drake" <d...@rogers.com>
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List - Handrail heartbreak
>> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 21:22:04 -0400
>> 
>> Mine broke as I was installing it !
>> I feel your pain .
>> I have since replaced the wood grab rails with Stainless ones
>> 
>> On 15/04/2013 8:32 AM, djhaug...@juno.com wrote:
>>> So,
>>> 
>>> I decided to make new handrails for Lolita.  All I could find on line were 
>>> A.) not long enough and B.) 12" on center for the loops.  Mine are 11.5" on 
>>> center.
>>> 
>>> I go out Saturday morning and buy a couple 5" x 12' rough cut boards (one 
>>> as an extra), buy myself a router and router table and I'm off and running. 
>>>  Well, I noticed a couple knarly areas but they seemed solid, I tried to 
>>> bend them and twist them and the knot was not well formed and definitely 
>>> seemed solid (you already know where this is going right?)
>>> 
>>> I worked on these the rest of the day Saturday and a good part of Sunday.  
>>> I had just started finish sanding and the opposite end slipped off the 
>>> table and the stupid thing broke!
>>> 
>>> I was gutted!  I guess better now than after I'd finished them
>>> 
>>> I was all happy with how they were turning out.  Lesson learned...no knots 
>>> are good knots!
>>> 
>>> Well at least it won't take as long this time and I only have to make one.
>>> 
>>> Here are some links to the work and the heartbreak...
>>> 
>>> http://sdrv.ms/103PWto
>>> 
>>> http://sdrv.ms/17BaJES
>>> 
>>> http://sdrv.ms/17BaQ38
>>> 
>>> You can probably see why I felt new handrails were in order when you see 
>>> the new ones next to the old ones.  I'm willing to bet those are original 
>>> and never saw any attention.
>>> 
>>> Oh, and my handrails were lagged to the deck from below instead of through 
>>> bolted.  Anyone else have the same condition.  I'm thinking I'll to the 
>>> same thing only with heavier lag bolts.  This way I can completely finish 
>>> them at home and won't have any touch up work after the install.  At 24 
>>> hours between coats and doing the suggested 8 coats, thats a real time 
>>> consuming job.  Not to mention a lot of gas a 30 miles each way!
>>> 
>>> Danny
>>> Lolita
>>> 1973 Viking 33
>>> Westport Point, MA
>>> 
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> 
> -- 
> D.Drake 73 Jensen Healey C&C 26
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 21:47:45 -0400
> From: "D.Drake" <d...@rogers.com>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List - Handrail heartbreak
> Message-ID: <516dff41.5090...@rogers.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed"
> 
> I sourced all the components from Suncor Stainless
> 
> On 16/04/2013 10:09 AM, airdale...@juno.com wrote:
>> Where did you get the stainless ones from?
>> 
>> ---------- Original Message ----------
>> From: "D.Drake" <d...@rogers.com>
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List - Handrail heartbreak
>> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 21:22:04 -0400
>> 
>> Mine broke as I was installing it !
>> I feel your pain .
>> I have since replaced the wood grab rails with Stainless ones
>> 
>> On 15/04/2013 8:32 AM, djhaug...@juno.com wrote:
>>> So,
>>> 
>>> I decided to make new handrails for Lolita.  All I could find on
>> line were A.) not long enough and B.) 12" on center for the loops. 
>> Mine are 11.5" on center.
>>> 
>>> I go out Saturday morning and buy a couple 5" x 12' rough cut boards
>> (one as an extra), buy myself a router and router table and I'm off 
>> and running.  Well, I noticed a couple knarly areas but they seemed 
>> solid, I tried to bend them and twist them and the knot was not well 
>> formed and definitely seemed solid (you already know where this is 
>> going right?)
>>> 
>>> I worked on these the rest of the day Saturday and a good part of
>> Sunday.  I had just started finish sanding and the opposite end 
>> slipped off the table and the stupid thing broke!
>>> 
>>> I was gutted!  I guess better now than after I'd finished them
>>> 
>>> I was all happy with how they were turning out.  Lesson learned...no
>> knots are good knots!
>>> 
>>> Well at least it won't take as long this time and I only have to
>> make one.
>>> 
>>> Here are some links to the work and the heartbreak...
>>> 
>>> http://sdrv.ms/103PWto
>>> 
>>> http://sdrv.ms/17BaJES
>>> 
>>> http://sdrv.ms/17BaQ38
>>> 
>>> You can probably see why I felt new handrails were in order when you
>> see the new ones next to the old ones.  I'm willing to bet those are 
>> original and never saw any attention.
>>> 
>>> Oh, and my handrails were lagged to the deck from below instead of
>> through bolted.  Anyone else have the same condition.  I'm thinking 
>> I'll to the same thing only with heavier lag bolts.  This way I can 
>> completely finish them at home and won't have any touch up work after 
>> the install.  At 24 hours between coats and doing the suggested 8 
>> coats, thats a real time consuming job.  Not to mention a lot of gas a 
>> 30 miles each way!
>>> 
>>> Danny
>>> Lolita
>>> 1973 Viking 33
>>> Westport Point, MA
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album
>>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com
>>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com
>> 
>> -- 
>> D.Drake 73 Jensen Healey C&C 26
>> 
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> Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 22:21:44 -0400 (EDT)
> From: "Richard N. Bush" <bushma...@aol.com>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List - Handrail heartbreak; handrail covers
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> 
> I agree with the handrail covers idea; actually I have two sets; one for 
> summer and one for winter layup; they are both worth they're weave in gold!
> 
> 
> Richard
> 1987 33-II Ohio River, Mile 584
> 
> Richard N. Bush Law Offices 
> 235 South Fifth Street, Fourth Floor 
> Louisville, Kentucky 40202 
> 502-584-7255
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jake Brodersen <captain_j...@cox.net>
> To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Sent: Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:37 pm
> Subject: Re: Stus-List - Handrail heartbreak
> 
> 
> 
> Nate,
> 
> I had handrail covers made as well.  They are worth their weight in gold.  I 
> still overcoat the handrails every year.  The bases sometimes get a little 
> sun when the cover flips up.  I have snaps centered in each loop and they do 
> a pretty good job of keeping the covers on.
> 
> Jake
> 
> Jake Brodersen
> C&C 35 Mk-III
> Midnight Mistress
> Hampton VA
> 
> 
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Nate 
> Flesness
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:23 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List - Handrail heartbreak
> 
> 
> So after several years of refinishing handrails annually (or maybe every 
> other year when I was sloppy), I finally added sunbrella handrail covers - 
> and based on one year's experience, my handrails are now immortal and their 
> finish is close to immortal. The covers were a minor addition to a new dodger 
> order, though there are online sources too.  I can't believe I didn't do this 
> sooner. 
> 
> 
> 
> Handrail covers are rare around here (I'm now the only one with them in my 50 
> boat marina), but every time I take them off to go sailing, and look at a 
> very nice shiny teak finish, looking just a perfect as the last time they 
> were uncovered, I don't understand why they are rare. For all the cost and 
> effort or replacing handrails eroded or sanded to oblivion, not to mention 
> the effort and cumulative cost of refinishing them, I would strongly 
> recommend getting covers.
> 
> 
> 
> and, BTW, this year I'm no longer sure why we live here.....
> 
> 
> 
> Nate
> 
> "Sarah Jean"
> 
> 1980 30-1
> 
> Siskiwit Bay Marina
> 
> Lake Superior
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 22:26:29 -0400
> From: Eric Frank <efran...@mac.com>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List primer on unpainted gelcoat
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> A couple of areas (a few square inches) on the hull of Cat's Paw just below 
> the waterline are completely bare: no antifouling paint and no primer either 
> - just bare gelcoat.  What do CC'ers recommend for a primer to coat these 
> spots?  How many coats? And then what primer should go over that to make a 
> good base for the antifouling paint (I use Micron 66)? 
> 
> Eric Frank
> Cat's Paw
> C&C 35 Mk II
> Mattapoisett, MA
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 22:29:46 -0400
> From: "=?utf-8?B?d3dhZGpvdXJuQGFvbC5jb20=?=" <wwadjo...@aol.com>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List - Handrail heartbreak; handrail covers
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Anyone have internet source for handrail covers in choice of sunbrella 
> colors?  Had some
> On previous boat and since I am doind teak right now good time to get some.  
> Bill Walker
> Evening Star
> C n C 36
> Pentwater, Mi.
> 
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Richard N. Bush" <bushma...@aol.com>
> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Stus-List - Handrail heartbreak; handrail covers
> Date: Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:21 pm
> I agree with the handrail covers idea; actually I have two sets; one for 
> summer and one for winter layup; they are both worth they're weave in gold!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> 1987 33-II Ohio River, Mile 584
> 
> 
> 
> Richard N. Bush Law Offices 
> 
> 235 South Fifth Street, Fourth Floor 
> 
> Louisville, Kentucky 40202 
> 
> 502-584-7255
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> 
> From: Jake Brodersen <captain_j...@cox.net>
> 
> To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> 
> Sent: Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:37 pm
> 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List - Handrail heartbreak
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Nate,
> 
> 
> 
> I had handrail covers made as well.  They are worth their weight in gold.  I 
> still overcoat the handrails every year.  The bases sometimes get a little 
> sun when the cover flips up.  I have snaps centered in each loop and they do 
> a pretty good job of keeping the covers on.
> 
> 
> 
> Jake
> 
> 
> 
> Jake Brodersen
> 
> C&C 35 Mk-III
> 
> Midnight Mistress
> 
> Hampton VA
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Nate 
> Flesness
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:23 AM
> 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List - Handrail heartbreak
> 
> 
> 
> 
> So after several years of refinishing handrails annually (or maybe every 
> other year when I was sloppy), I finally added sunbrella handrail covers - 
> and based on one year's experience, my handrails are now immortal and their 
> finish is close to immortal. The covers were a minor addition to a new dodger 
> order, though there are online sources too.  I can't believe I didn't do this 
> sooner. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Handrail covers are rare around here (I'm now the only one with them in my 50 
> boat marina), but every time I take them off to go sailing, and look at a 
> very nice shiny teak finish, looking just a perfect as the last time they 
> were uncovered, I don't understand why they are rare. For all the cost and 
> effort or replacing handrails eroded or sanded to oblivion, not to mention 
> the effort and cumulative cost of refinishing them, I would strongly 
> recommend getting covers.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> and, BTW, this year I'm no longer sure why we live here.....
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Nate
> 
> 
> 
> "Sarah Jean"
> 
> 
> 
> 1980 30-1
> 
> 
> 
> Siskiwit Bay Marina
> 
> 
> 
> Lake Superior
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 19:39:56 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "Dennis C." <capt...@yahoo.com>
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List ?- Handrail heartbreak; handrail covers
> Message-ID:
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> http://www.ebay.com/itm/SET-OF-2-SUNBRELLA-SAILBOAT-HANDRAIL-COVERS-BOAT-HAND-RAIL-COVERS-REAL-SUNBRELLA-/181120359263?pt=Boat_Parts_Accessories_Gear&hash=item2a2b9d5b5f&vxp=mtr
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: "wwadjo...@aol.com" <wwadjo...@aol.com>
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:29 PM
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List ?- Handrail heartbreak; handrail covers
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Anyone have internet source for handrail covers in choice of sunbrella 
>> colors? ?Had some
>> On previous boat and since I am doind teak right now good time to get some. ?
>> Bill Walker
>> Evening Star
>> C n C 36
>> Pentwater, Mi.
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Reply message -----
>> From: "Richard N. Bush" <bushma...@aol.com>
>> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> Subject: Stus-List - Handrail heartbreak; handrail covers
>> Date: Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:21 pm
>> 
>> 
>> I agree with the handrail covers idea; actually I have two sets; one for 
>> summer and one for winter layup; they are both worth they're weave in gold!
>> Richard
>> 1987 33-II Ohio River, Mile 584
>> 
>> Richard N. Bush Law Offices 
>> 235 South Fifth Street, Fourth Floor 
>> Louisville, Kentucky 40202 
>> 502-584-7255
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jake Brodersen <captain_j...@cox.net>
>> To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> Sent: Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:37 pm
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List - Handrail heartbreak
>> 
>> 
>> Nate,
>> ?
>> I had handrail covers made as well.? They are worth their weight in gold.? I 
>> still overcoat the handrails every year.? The bases sometimes get a little 
>> sun when the cover flips up.? I have snaps centered in each loop and they do 
>> a pretty good job of keeping the covers on.
>> ?
>> Jake
>> ?
>> Jake Brodersen
>> C&C 35 Mk-III
>> Midnight Mistress
>> Hampton VA
>> ?
>> ?
>> From:CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Nate 
>> Flesness
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:23 AM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List - Handrail heartbreak
>> ?
>> So after several years of refinishing handrails annually (or maybe every 
>> other year when I was sloppy), I finally added sunbrella handrail covers - 
>> and based on one year's experience, my handrails are now immortal and their 
>> finish is close to immortal. The covers were a minor addition to a new 
>> dodger order, though there are online sources too. ?I can't believe I didn't 
>> do this sooner.?
>> ?
>> Handrail covers are rare around here (I'm now the only one with them in my 
>> 50 boat marina), but every time I take them off to go sailing, and look at a 
>> very nice shiny teak finish, looking just a perfect as the last time they 
>> were uncovered, I don't understand why they are rare. For all the cost and 
>> effort or replacing handrails eroded or sanded to oblivion, not to mention 
>> the effort and cumulative cost of refinishing them, I would strongly 
>> recommend getting covers.
>> ?
>> and, BTW, this year I'm no longer sure why we live here.....
>> ?
>> Nate
>> "Sarah Jean"
>> 1980 30-1
>> Siskiwit Bay Marina
>> Lake Superior
>> _______________________________________________
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> CnC-List@cnc-list.com 
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 23:18:46 -0400
> From: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List primer on unpainted gelcoat
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> Are you having a hard time year after year with the same spot?  If so there
> is probably wax or mold release stuck in the Gelcoat.  Unfortunately it get
> grounded in while sanding so you have to work hard to get it out/off.  I
> would try cleaning with Interlux striper cleaner solvent 202 repeatedly.
> Then scuff, clean, feather, clean, scuff, clean, then ensure an 80 grit
> scuff and a final clean.  At this point you could just paint with bottom
> paint and see how it goes.  Or apply Interlux barrier coat (2000e??)
> according to the directions and then "hot coat" with bottom paint while the
> barrier paint is still "soft".  The barrier coat has directions on the can
> for "hot coating".
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> 
> -- 
> When security matters.
> http://www.secure-my-email.com
> On Apr 16, 2013 10:26 PM, "Eric Frank" <efran...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
>> A couple of areas (a few square inches) on the hull of Cat's Paw just
>> below the waterline are completely bare: no antifouling paint and no primer
>> either - just bare gelcoat.  What do CC'ers recommend for a primer to coat
>> these spots?  How many coats? And then what primer should go over that to
>> make a good base for the antifouling paint (I use Micron 66)?
>> 
>> Eric Frank
>> Cat's Paw
>> C&C 35 Mk II
>> Mattapoisett, MA
>> 
>> 
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 04:42:48 -0300
> From: Knowles Rich <r...@sailpower.ca>
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List primer on unpainted gelcoat
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> International Paint has plenty of I do that should help. 
> http://www.international-marine.com/marinehome.aspx
> 
> Rich Knowles
> Indigo. LF38
> Halifax
> 
> On 2013-04-16, at 23:26, Eric Frank <efran...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> A couple of areas (a few square inches) on the hull of Cat's Paw just below 
> the waterline are completely bare: no antifouling paint and no primer either 
> - just bare gelcoat.  What do CC'ers recommend for a primer to coat these 
> spots?  How many coats? And then what primer should go over that to make a 
> good base for the antifouling paint (I use Micron 66)? 
> 
> Eric Frank
> Cat's Paw
> C&C 35 Mk II
> Mattapoisett, MA
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> Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 09:57:04 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Chuck S <cscheaf...@comcast.net>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List - Handrail heartbreak
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> Pictures? 
> 
> 
> Chuck 
> Resolute 
> 1990 C&C 34R 
> Atlantic City, NJ 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "D.Drake" <d...@rogers.com> 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:47:45 PM 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List - Handrail heartbreak 
> 
> I sourced all the components from Suncor Stainless 
> 
> 
> On 16/04/2013 10:09 AM, airdale...@juno.com wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> Where did you get the stainless ones from? 
> 
> ---------- Original Message ---------- 
> From: "D.Drake" <d...@rogers.com> 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List - Handrail heartbreak 
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 21:22:04 -0400 
> 
> Mine broke as I was installing it ! 
> I feel your pain . 
> I have since replaced the wood grab rails with Stainless ones 
> 
> On 15/04/2013 8:32 AM, djhaug...@juno.com wrote: 
>> So, 
>> 
>> I decided to make new handrails for Lolita. All I could find on line were 
>> A.) not long enough and B.) 12" on center for the loops. Mine are 11.5" on 
>> center. 
>> 
>> I go out Saturday morning and buy a couple 5" x 12' rough cut boards (one as 
>> an extra), buy myself a router and router table and I'm off and running. 
>> Well, I noticed a couple knarly areas but they seemed solid, I tried to bend 
>> them and twist them and the knot was not well formed and definitely seemed 
>> solid (you already know where this is going right?) 
>> 
>> I worked on these the rest of the day Saturday and a good part of Sunday. I 
>> had just started finish sanding and the opposite end slipped off the table 
>> and the stupid thing broke! 
>> 
>> I was gutted! I guess better now than after I'd finished them 
>> 
>> I was all happy with how they were turning out. Lesson learned...no knots 
>> are good knots! 
>> 
>> Well at least it won't take as long this time and I only have to make one. 
>> 
>> Here are some links to the work and the heartbreak... 
>> 
>> http://sdrv.ms/103PWto 
>> 
>> http://sdrv.ms/17BaJES 
>> 
>> http://sdrv.ms/17BaQ38 
>> 
>> You can probably see why I felt new handrails were in order when you see the 
>> new ones next to the old ones. I'm willing to bet those are original and 
>> never saw any attention. 
>> 
>> Oh, and my handrails were lagged to the deck from below instead of through 
>> bolted. Anyone else have the same condition. I'm thinking I'll to the same 
>> thing only with heavier lag bolts. This way I can completely finish them at 
>> home and won't have any touch up work after the install. At 24 hours between 
>> coats and doing the suggested 8 coats, thats a real time consuming job. Not 
>> to mention a lot of gas a 30 miles each way! 
>> 
>> Danny 
>> Lolita 
>> 1973 Viking 33 
>> Westport Point, MA 
>> 
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> From: "djhaug...@juno.com" <djhaug...@juno.com>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List primer on unpainted gelcoat
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> I think at some point the bottom needs to be stripped and started fresh.  I 
> think the areas like you're seeing may be your first signs that it might time 
> for your boat.  However, you could simply sand and feather it and coat it 
> with bottom paint.I've actually just asked the yard for a quote on stripping, 
> Barrier coating and Bottom Painting...  If it isn't too frightening I may 
> just go for it this year.  If it is too much I'll touch up, paint and splash 
> and worry next year... I'm not really 100% sold on barrier coat necessity 
> but, I do tend to try over-fix stuff...LOL DannyLolita1973 Viking 33Westport 
> Point, MA
> 
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: Eric Frank <efran...@mac.com>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List primer on unpainted gelcoat
> Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 22:26:29 -0400
> 
> A couple of areas (a few square inches) on the hull of Cat's Paw just below 
> the waterline are completely bare: no antifouling paint and no primer either 
> - just bare gelcoat.  What do CC'ers recommend for a primer to coat these 
> spots?  How many coats? And then what primer should go over that to make a 
> good base for the antifouling paint (I use Micron 66)? 
> 
> 
> Eric Frank
> Cat's Paw
> C&C 35 Mk II
> Mattapoisett, MA 
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> Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 07:55:21 -0500
> From: "Pete Shelquist" <pete.shelqu...@comcast.net>
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> Subject: Stus-List applying vc17 in cold weather
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> I have crew coming up to help work on the boat this weekend.  One task I
> wanted to bang out was putting on bottom paint.  
> 
> 
> 
> Unfortunately the high is only going to be in the 30s.  Any tips/tricks for
> applying VC17 in colder weather, or should I punt and wait for another
> weekend to do this?
> 
> 
> 
> Fred - I'm at Port also (for the winter) and I'll check the ice.  Lots of
> wind last week helped break it up.
> 
> 
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> Thanks,
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> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 10:02:05 -0300
> From: "Hoyt, Mike" <mike.h...@impgroup.com>
> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List applying vc17 in cold weather
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> 30s is very warm here ... you should move to Nova Scotia
> 
> ________________________________
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> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Pete
> Shelquist
> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 9:55 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List applying vc17 in cold weather
> 
> 
> 
> I have crew coming up to help work on the boat this weekend.  One task I
> wanted to bang out was putting on bottom paint.  
> 
> 
> 
> Unfortunately the high is only going to be in the 30s.  Any tips/tricks
> for applying VC17 in colder weather, or should I punt and wait for
> another weekend to do this?
> 
> 
> 
> Fred - I'm at Port also (for the winter) and I'll check the ice.  Lots
> of wind last week helped break it up.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
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