Bob
 
Using a Mastercraft 12 volt tester that was purchased in 1982 (approx)
and spent 8 years on a 1981 C&C 36 and then some more years on a
motorhome.  It was still  in original packaging and was $22.95 I believe
at Canadian Tire at the time.  Since the 36 is long gone from the
family, along with the Motorhomes and sadly even my Dad I decided it
would be put to better use on a boat again.  My existing multimeter for
some reason measures in scales of 10v, 250v and 500v for DC current
which is pretty much useless for testing 12v battery.  BTW - the last
battery was purchased at GNB in Burnside in May 2011
 
I tested while sitting on the boat Friday evening I believe around 5:30
PM.  It was approx 5+ degrees at the time and warmer inside the boat.  I
had charged 2 - 3 weeks previously by setting battery switch to BOTH and
plugging in the Guest ChargePro 6amp charger for 12 hours.  In the
meantime I had run the stereo for 2-3 hours on one of the batteries
while playing with my traveler .... (rebuilding after it exploded last
Fall).
 
To be perfectly clear there is very little load on these batteries.  We
seldom sail at night nor use the internal cabin lighting.  The boat
spent 24 years with only a single battery with no issue and only
received a second after the crew insisted a stereo be installed.  The
batteries are almost exclusively for instrumentation.  The outboard is
pull start not electric start.  My goal is to have a light use last for
18 - 24 hours without charge on each battery with minimal electronics
use.  On our former boat we managed 36+ hours on a single group 24 with
continuous use in similar conditions before switching to battery two
with no charging - so this should not be unrealistic.  We also have
multiple handheld backups for the VHF and the GPS as well.
 
Mike
http://users.eastlink.ca/~mhoyt
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Robert Abbott
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 12:10 PM
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Subject: Stus-List batteries


Mike:

14 volts seems a bit high.....when are you taking this measurement?  

If you take your batteries over to Burnside to Maritime Batteries (or
Great Northern Battery) not sure what they are calling themselves these
days, they will do a 'load test' for you at 'no charge'....no pun, let
me try again, at 'no cost to you'.

Last year, I let the electrolyte go down in my batteries.....thought
they might be toast....took them to Maritime Batteries and they
rehabilitated them.....no cost to me......I gave the guy a good Cuban
cigar....he was a happy guy.

Bob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S. 



On 2013/04/15 11:29 AM, Bill Bina wrote:


        They likely have reduced capacity after that treatment. All 6
cells may still be working, which is why you can get what appears to be
a good voltage reading. Unfortunately, a good voltage reading is only
half the battle.When a battery is that dead, it starts to sulfate
immediately, rendering portions of the lead plates non-functional. That
reduces how much f a charge tthe battery will really take, and how much
run time you get from them after fully charging.  The only real way to
know the capacity of a battery is with a test using a battery load
tester. They are not very expensive. 
        
        
http://www.harborfreight.com/100-amp-6-volt12-volt-battery-load-tester-6
9888.html
        
        Most autoparts places that sell batteries will use one of these
to check your batteries for you, but you would have to take them to the
store. 
        
        Bill Bina
        
        
        On 4/15/2013 9:45 AM, Hoyt, Mike wrote:
        

                Our boat has two Group 24 deep cycle batteries with 140
min reserve.  I also have a Guest 1, 2, Both, off battery selector
switch.  As we have an outboard motor with alternator (6 amp) and
therefore do not need a starting battery.  The batteries are to power
lights, instruments, etc .. only and are charged using a Guest Charge
Pro 3 stage electric charger and when the Outboard engine is running.
Charge goes into whichever battery is selected on the battery selector
switch.
                 
                Last Fall while motoring two hours back to my mooring I
had the battery selector switch on BOTH to put some charge in each
battery.  It was cold and wet and I did not turn off the instruments
(Speed, Depth, Chartplotter, VHF) on leaving the boat.  The next weekend
on arriving I had two completely discharged batteries.  Temperatures
were +5C and above in the intervening week.
                 
                I motored to the club where we were racing and then
plugged in the battery charger for just over an hour and we had
sufficient charge to race on Battery 1 for 2.5 hours and some time at
dock listening to stereo before that charge started to run out.  Then I
plugged in charger and started recharging batteries.  That was last week
of season and the batteries appeared to be fine
                 
                I have been since told that once a battery is fully
discharged it will never be the same and may be ruined.  I have left the
batteries aboard all winter and approximately every six weeks plugged in
the Guest 3 stage charger to keep them topped up.  They never seemed to
become discharged.  This past weekend I measured the voltage and each
seems to be at 14 volts.  They had not been charged for a period of two
weeks and the stereo had been on for a bit
                 
                Am I correct in assuming that these two batteries were
not seriously harmed by the complete discharge last Fall?  Note that
they are 2 and 3 seasons old.
                 
                Mike
                Nut Case
                 
                 
                 

                 
                
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