Regarding percentage of moisture: Baltek Corp (sellers of balsa and other core 
materials) detailed the performance issues of "wet" core in their "Proper Core 
Installation" (2009) document.

In short, balsa starts out with around 10 to 12% moisture content.  The "Fiber 
Saturation Point" where the structure of the wood cannot retain any more water 
vapor is around 28%.

Baltek goes on to state that moisture levels 20% or below is not enough to 
condemn (or even justify stripping the skin and replacing the core) a boat 
owing to a reduction on shear or compression strength.

After spending the last winter repairing balsa core that had completely failed 
(rotted, black, stinky, delaminated from the skin) and in the process testing 
the bond strength if damp balsa (tan/brown colored, not stinky, "had to pry the 
glass skin off") to the 43 year old fiberglass (polyester resin) I agree with 
Baltek's claim.

The combo of a moisture meter and a light tapping around suspect areas should 
be used.  On Calypso the totally failed areas sounded so different than the 
still well bonded areas that I could easily find them, even with ear plugs in.

If one is not interested or capable in performing repairs in the usual C&C wet 
core areas, by all means use the highest standards regarding wet deck core.  If 
you are willing to DIY small repairs jobs it is messy but not difficult.  
Having a boat yard perform the repairs, especially if major, likely exceeds the 
value of the boat unless it hold special value to a determined owner.

This winter's projects on Calypso's deck cost the co-owner and I around $2,500 
in materials and the boat cover.  The cost in hours was fortunately not well 
documented but I estimate it around a combined 25 to 30 hours a week for 12 
weeks.  If we had our local boat yard perform the work I estimate it would have 
been $40,000 in materials, labor, and yard fees.

Martin
Calypso
1970 C&C 43
Seattle

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Pierre 
Tremblay
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 10:35 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 30 - Pinless Moisture Detector

Just back from Canadian Tire with a Mastercraft pinless moisture meter.

In soft wood mode, top of my desk (presswood modular furniture type) say 15%, 
and it can see my hand (jump to 18%) under the desk top (1 inch thick). On my 
hand, it goes off the scale exactly as the CT33 of my surveyor was doing.

Pierre Tremblay
Avalanche, #54988
C&C38-3 WK

On 2013-04-09, at 9:47, Stevan Plavsa 
<stevanpla...@gmail.com<mailto:stevanpla...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I never had any trouble using mine, what people deem so difficult about using 
them I'm not sure. The mastercraft one is a quarter of the cost, go ahead and 
try it and report back. I'de be curious to see how it measures up against the 
CT33.


On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Hoyt, Mike 
<mike.h...@impgroup.com<mailto:mike.h...@impgroup.com>> wrote:
Don

I asked on the Canadian Tire website a similar question about that product a 
few months ago.  They finally answered and say it is similar to CT33 because it 
ises a similar inductance method.  At half price at $45 I think it is worth a 
try anyway.

You should also be aware that these meters are not all that easy to use.  I 
borrowed Graham's Electrophysics meter (CT100 I believe) and within 10 minutes 
realized I had no clue how to use it properly.

Mike



From: CnC-List 
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] On 
Behalf Of Don Harben
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 9:31 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 30 - Pinless Moisture Detector
  Hi folks,
This has been a very useful discussion for me but especially for my friend 
currently looking at boats.

Does anybody have comments or experience on this Pinless Moisture Detector?

http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/6/Tools/MeasuringTools/SpecialtyMeasuring/PRD~0574572P/Mastercraft+Pinless+Moisture+Detector.jsp?locale=en


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