Note I changed the subject line just for clarity.

 

Ditto on the backstay tension.  Due to new instruments with vmg and new crew 
watching trim, we had a chance to play with backstay tension a lot last summer. 
 I now keep it much looser than I ever had with very good results.  Not sure if 
it makes a difference with the keel joint, but it makes sense.   FWIW I sailed 
on a NA40 once and they couldn’t motor with backstay tension on due to the 
effect on the shaft.  It sounded crazy to me at the time, but there’s a lot of 
power in that little ram (ok wally, there’s your opening)

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C.
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 11:09 AM
To: Tim Goodyear; Cn Clist
Subject: Re: Stus-List Keel R&R

 

Yep.  Back off a bit on your max setting.  I did.  No more cracks.  But I also 
slapped a couple layers of biaxial tape over the area.  I use a dinghy batten 
taped to the backstay.  It's marked with strips of green, yellow, red and 
finally black tape to mark the tension.  Lot easier to see than looking at the 
gauge.  Gauge reading is really irrelavent to us.  We adjust to the sailshape, 
look at the tape and then reset it to the tape on the next windward leg if the 
breeze is the same.

 

I've also found the 35-1 likes to "breathe" so we don't use as much backstay 
tension as when I first started racing the boat.

 

The 35-1 has a transverse rib of balsa in that area.  Probably more for hard 
grounding reinforcement but a bit of strength nontheless.

 

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

 


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From: Tim Goodyear <timg...@gmail.com>
To: Dennis C. <capt...@yahoo.com>; "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Keel R&R

 

Good point.  I do like a nice tight forestay...  Upwind setting is between 1500 
to max of 2000 kpsi, which I didn't think would be too much.  Maybe a couple of 
longitudinal stringers in between the ribs in that area would help, or living 
with more sag / less pointing ability.

 

Tim

Mojito

C&C 35-3

Branford, CT

On Nov 24, 2012, at 10:43 AM, "Dennis C." <capt...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Tim,

 

Do you have a hydraulic backstay adjuster?

 

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

 


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From: Tim Goodyear <timg...@gmail.com>
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Keel R&R

 

Thanks, Jake.  I'll take a look under the anti fouling around the top of the 
keel stub this year.  I've had two yards try to solve the crack at the back of 
the keel (the C&C frown?), but it is back this year with a little water weeping 
out.  It's (now) all solid fiberglass in that area, so I don't know where the 
movement is starting.

 

Tim




On Nov 24, 2012, at 7:54 AM, "Jake Brodersen" <captain_j...@cox.net> wrote:

Tim,

 

We found a number of hairline cracks in the keel stub.  They were spread out 
and not really concentrated in one area.  The boat was originally commissioned 
in Maine.  I suspect that it had a hard grounding at some point.  I didn’t 
notice any stress at the back of the keel, which is where you would expect to 
see major damage in a grounding.

 

This past spring when I had the bottom paint soda blasted, we found some 
longitudinal cracks in the gelcoat and glass on the port and starboard side in 
the hull, less than a foot from the keel joint.  One was over two feet long.  
They were grounded out and glassed in.  It is all faired in nicely now.

 

Jake

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Tim Goodyear
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 5:26 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Cutting my keel

 

Jake, I know you've documented your project, but what did the cracks look like 
before you started?  Mojito has a couple of short hairline cracks at the hull / 
stub joint on the port side, and at the very rear of the keel.

 

Thanks,

 

Tim 

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