Found this older post about the 34.  Hope this helps


John and Maryann
Legacy III
1982 C&C 34
Noank, CT
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Brewer [mailto:mbrew...@carolina.rr.com] 
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Subject: Re: [candc-list] c&c 34

Wow, John.  You made me want to buy one.  Very nice write up on the 34!   

You mentioned something that concerns me on my 24;  "Many older units have
gate valves for seacocks and if present should be replaced.".  Coming from
sailing dinghies for the last 20 years; I am still learning about the needs
of larger boats.  How do I identify gate valves and why should they be
replaced?  Replaced with which type of valve?  Thanks.

m
C&C24 USA51924
Koyaanisqatsi

"The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change;
the realist adjusts the sails". -William Arthur Ward

m
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John & Maryann Read" <johnpr...@comcast.net>
To: <candc-l...@sailnet.net>; "C&C Owners Group" <cnc-own...@topica.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 11:09 PM
Subject: Re: [candc-list] c&c 34


> To my thinking, the 34 is the quintessential cruiser / racer for day
racing
> and coastal cruising.  We are approaching our 5th year with our 1982 and
> could not be happier.
> 
> On the cruising side, it cruises 4 people in comfort for a week or more.
It
> can sleep 6 in a pinch, especially if small children are involved.  It
> handles like a dream.  The sail plan is easily handled by husband and
wife.
> Overall layout is very functional.  Galley is well laid out.  Chart table
is
> extremely functional.  Main cabin table with bottle holder works well.
> Bunks are comfortable.  Good storage.  Hanging locker.  Hot and cold
> pressure water with shower.  Tankage is adequate for 2 - 3 days when you
> need to come in to a marina for ice anyway.  Ice box is well insulated.
> Good ventilation below, especially on later units with hatches in main
cabin
> and head.  Anchor locker forward.
> 
> On the racing side, it is a winner!!  It is most competitive in light to
> moderate air, say under 18 knots.  Very sensitive to mast trim, babystay
> trim, backstay tension, sail trim and weight distribution.  Sail controls
> are well laid out.  Get her in the groove and she flies.  We earned our
fair
> share of silver.  I can honestly say this is a boat which has the
potential
> to win every race - how well we do is entirely a result of the human
factors
> and not the boat.  We normally race with 7 on board.  We routinely race
> (spinnaker) against several C&C's including 32, 33, 34 K/C, 36, 38.  We
are
> all extremely competitive with each other
> 
> The 34 is squirrelly in heavy air downwind.  This is mainly a function of
> quartering seas pushing the stern around.  Another reason is in a heavy
puff
> dead downwind the spinnaker forces the bow down lifting the stern and
> causing the rudder to lose laminar flow.   The solution is simple - don't
> overload the sail plan.  The exception is only when you have really great
> crew on board and steer very aggressively.  A prior post about a 34
> broaching seems to me to be more a function of inexperienced helmsmanship
> and crew work than of a design flaw.  It is more tender than many C&C's,
but
> by no means excessively so.  If you check the photoalbum stability chart
you
> will see the 34 is tender.  This is one reason why it does so well in
> lighter airs - as is true for most things sailing there are trade offs.
We
> find we reef or reduce headsails a little sooner than other boats, but
that
> doesn't really hurt us as it keeps the boat on its feet which is fast.
> 
> The design of the 34 is an evolution from the 33.  The hull and deck are
> also extremely similar to the 36.  It is not like the 32 which is a quite
> different design.  A good write up on the design may be found on the
> photoalbum at
> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/archive/ccnews/ccnews7.htm
> 
> The brochures are very informative and may be found at
> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/brochures/34foot/34b2pg01.htm
> 
> We understand the 34 was built from 1978 to 1982.  Our hull is number 464
> and was delivered to the original owner in early 1983.  We understand ours
> is one of the last ones built, so a production run of over 100 boats per
> year speaks volumes on how well the boat was received.  In our search we
> noted the interior trim varied substantially and improved later in the
> production run.
> 
> It is important to note the "original" 34 has no relationship to the 34 /
36
> which started production in late 1980's.  The 2 are entirely different in
> design and materials.
> 
> There are no inherent design or manufacturing flaws.  It is solidly and
well
> built.  The deck is balsa cored.  There is balsa in the hull.  The early
> units had A-4's,. then switched to Yanmar 3 cylinder diesels which we have
> and it is more than adequate.  Under power, it tracks well and true.  The
> stern walks to port in reverse.  On ours, we still have the original gel
> coat and it looks great!
> 
> As with any boat over 20 years old, a thorough survey is in order and
> inspection of sails.  Many older units have gate valves for seacocks and
if
> present should be replaced.  Plan to do maintenance typical of a boat of
> this age.
> 
> Photos of ours may be found at
> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/photos/34foot/34footp24.htm.  (It states the
> year as 1984 in error)
> 
> We know of at least 4 other 34's in our area - we all love them.
> 
> Hope this is helpful
> 
> John and Maryann Read
> Legacy III
> 1983 C&C 34
> Noank, CT
> 
> 
>

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