well, I have a fellow Viking 33 owner who has been sailing his Viking 33 since
1983. We have the identical engine and props on our boats. It was his
direction that I "must" goose the boat in reverse to open the prop and then
shift into forward. I must say, I have tried it without shifting into reverse
and she vibrates like mad. The reverse thing works well. I'll report back
after today's inspection.
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Rich Knowles <r...@sailpower.ca>
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Edson chain and wire pedestal failure
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 09:47:42 -0400
Why do you need to put the engine in reverse to open the prop? The blades open
easier and faster when you simply rev to the point centrifugal action opens the
blades and they bite and open fully, provided the speed of the boat is slower
than what it would be under power. This still does not explain the chain
jumping off the sprocket. I suggest taking a close look again at the entire
cable path. Also check that the bolts holding the binnacle in place are all
intact. A few years back on a heavy air reach I had the two aft bolts securing
it to the cockpit break allowing the binnacle to tilt forward and the cable to
loosen significantly.
Rich
On 2012-09-12, at 13:21, "djhaug...@juno.com" <djhaug...@juno.com> wrote:
Well, we were moving forward on a beam reach, I eased the sheet and began
furling. When I was done furling I returned the helm, grabbed the wheel put
the engine in reverse, as I need to do that to open the blades of the prop, and
then into forward, The boat turned to port and when I tried to straighten out
she was stuck, then I gave a good pull and the wheel was stuck at first, then
start spinning with no effect on the rudder. That is my perspective, what else
happened, I don't know...
---------- Original Message ----------
From: honeys...@aol.com
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Edson chain and wire pedestal failure
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 08:55:35 -0400 (EDT)
I was thinking the same, it is impossible for this to happen when in forward
motion. More to the story??? In a message dated 9/12/2012 8:52:01 A.M. Eastern
Daylight Time, r...@sailpower.ca writes:Danny. I don't understand how the
rudder could have swung by the stop if the boat was moving forward.
Rich
On 2012-09-12, at 12:32, "djhaug...@juno.com" <djhaug...@juno.com> wrote:
Okay so, Here is what I think may have happened. I think, when I let go of
the wheel to help furl the headsail, the rudder swung hard to port and went
right past the stop. This allowed the chain to roll right off the sprocket.
When I was playing around with trying to get it back, I got the chain to cable
fitting to go back over the steering shaft and the stop spindle on the rudder
post wheel to slip back by the stop on the bulkhead. What good is a stop if it
doesn't stop anything? Anyway I guess I should have engaged the break or tied
off the wheel before I let it go. I'm going to head down tonight and try and
remove the cable and chain to order a new one. I'm also going to get in the
water and have a look at the prop and shaft as there is some mysterious
vibration happening now...I wonder if the rudder managed to swing so far as to
have bent the brand new $500.00 shaft I just installed... Or maybe it bent the
strut... The wife is pretty disgusted in the whole ordeal. she feels we wasted
and entire summer working on this boat only to have this happen and we're not
done working on it and we can't go sailing because we need to make ANOTHER
repair and waste more great weather working on the boat. I think she has also
lost confidence in the boat... I tried to take all the blame myself saying we
didn't do enough shake down sailing and that it was my fault for letting go of
the wheel and allowing the rudder to swing... Her take is that we should be
able to let go of the wheel in a troubled situation and not worry about
becoming disabled...I tend to agree. As much as we both like the wheel I'm
considering going back to the tiller...or I need to beef up the stops or find a
better solution to prevent this from happening again. I think, knowing what I
know now, I will be more careful about tying the wheel off. Or...I don't
know,... it is hard to believe this has never happened before... Any insights
are always appreciated... Don't worry about hurting my delicate
sensibilities... LOL I have to try and get the boat back in the wife's good
graces or I could really end up in a Catalina.... Danny
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Martin DeYoung <mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com>
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Edson chain and wire pedestal failure
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:34:53 +0000
Friends don’t let friends buy Catalina’s, Hunter’s, or
Bayliner’s.
MartinCalypso
1971 C&C 43
Seattle
From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On
Behalf Of djhaug...@juno.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 5:56 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Edson chain and wire pedestal failure
I hear ya, Russ... I'm not letting beat though...came close and the wife is
saying..."Now I know why people buy the brand new Catalina..." ewwww
you could have 2 or 3 catalinas for the price of the Sabre that I covet!
If it hadn't been for the rough seas, the fast response of Tow BoatUS and the
comfort level of my wife...I'd have dropped down below. As it turns out, if I
had removed the cable or pulled the pin in the pedestal I probably would have
had control again. I guess the thing is that, I had ot done anything with the
steering sytem so I was not at all familiar with it...I should have known
better.
I just hope my wife forgives the Viking pretty quickly or she'll be pushing
even harder for the Catlina...At least she isn't get out of boating all
together! if worse comes to worse a catlina is better than no boat at all!!!
LOL
You can't beat the speed though...we were hitting 9 knots with the currents
with just the head sail before all hell broke loose! lets see a catlina do
that! LOL
Danny
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