Tom, Thanks, it has been quite a process and this list has been a great great
help. I've also enlisted the help of a fellow Viking 33 owner who has offered
heaps of insights from owning this same boat for over 30 years. Well his
father bought it originally... It's funny, everyone at the yard knows me by
name already. They have been watching me bust my butt on this boat every
weekend and a good number of weeknights since early March and they have been
very helpful to date. The yard charges a very reasonable rate of $85 and hour.
I had them swap out the motor for me. I had the old one out and in the
cockpit. They took that down and lifted the new on onto the motor mounts for
me and put the old one back in the shipping crate and charged me an hour. Very
reasonable! They also have a fully stocked ships store that has been
invaluable to me. You usually never know what you'll need until you need it.
Sometimes you don't know what you'll need until you find it! ...and they let
me rummage around in the back to find what I need! I'm very honest about what
I take and write down everything, as I don't want to lose that privileged! I
have to say, the transformation of this boat is astounding. I've gone from
people looking at me as though I must have a screw loose to getting compliments
on what a nice boat I have every day. If I get this vibration thing sorted out
it'll be a great day and the final step on a long road of getting this
beautiful vessel sea worthy! Danny
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Chuck S <cscheaf...@comcast.net>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Yard tips
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 15:32:16 +0000 (UTC)
Hi Danny,
I've enjoyed reading your emails. You are where I was ten years ago, learning
a new boat. This list is a great help, and I'm sure your persistence will pay
off. Eventually you will have a great boat by making these improvements you
are struggling with now, and you will learn skills as well.
The boatyard guys usually respect a boat owner who tries to fix things himself,
but only if he does things right. They look down on people who take shortcuts,
or ask them to fix something the owner screwed up. Their time is very
expensive, so there are a few tricks to getting good advice from them for free.
Offer to help the yard guy when he's working on an engine, hand him tools or
clean up for him. Don't touch his tools, but carry things back to the truck,
coil a hose, or power cords. Usually offering to help, breaks the ice, and
once they know your problem, they might stop at the end of the workday to check
it out for a cold beer.
Always have cold beer at your boat. If you know what brand they like, stock it
and keep it iced down. A cold twelve pack is a nice tip at the end of the day.
Some jobs are bigger and deserve a 30 pack. Never accept advice or help for
free. If you avoid paying the guy cash, all the better. Insist on giving some
type of compensation, usually beer. I know they like the beer, but I think
it's more a case of respect, they shouldn't work for nothing, and you can't
afford to pay the $100/hr they are truly worth.
If you get a problem and need to hire them, ask if paying cash can reduce the
bill. I often got 15% off and no tax, if I could pay cash.
Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Atlantic City, NJFrom: djhaug...@juno.com
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 10:43:19 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List A4 Engine alignment
Brand new cutlass bearing and shaft. When I put the dial indicator on the shaft
it was moving about .015 out of true, Upon screwing around with the motor
mounts I got that reduced to .005 approx. Now this was with the coupler tight
to the tranny flange. So, I then disconnected the coupler and adjusted a little
more but I had no feeler guage with me... I asked the yard mechanic to have a
look at it. With all the mount adjusting bolts free and easy to move and the
lags on the feel loose I was hoping someone with more experience with this sort
of thing could do it quickly... However, there is the chance they won't get to
it... They didn't seem all that thrilled about doing it. He did say if I was
to break all the bolts free it would save me a lot of money...
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List A4 Engine alignment
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 10:30:21 -0400
Dumb questions:
1. Is the cutlass bearing good?2. If the motor is out of alignment can you see
the shaft wobbling while in gear? Joel
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Della Barba, Joe <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>
wrote:
Put another fixed prop on and see what you get.
It may be the prop doing it.
�
Joe Della Barba
�
From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On
Behalf Of djhaug...@juno.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 9:57 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List A4 Engine alignment
�
Well,
I have a brand new shaft and had the machine shop check the prop hub on the
lathe. �they said "you can't get any better than that"
�
I can hear and feel the blades opening and closing as I rotate the shaft by
hand so nothing is stuck.
�
I guess it is just a pain in the butt, time consuming, task...
�
I'll have to get the feeler�gauges�out and keep messing with it...
�
Danny
---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Rich Knowles" <r...@sailpower.ca>
To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List A4 Engine alignment
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 10:33:35 -0300
Danny. The engine has to be adjusted on its mounts so that the coupling faces
are as parallel and in line as you can get them. To start, remove the
connecting bolts completely from the coupling flanges. Check that the flanges
are tight on the shafts and the lock bolts are wired properly. Check that the
shaft is in its best centered resting position and that the engine is as close
as possible to being in line. Then put the bolts back in loose and, using
feeler gauges inserted between the coupling faces, adjust the motor position so
the faces meet exactly with the same clearance measured around the face of the
couplings. Then tighten the engine mount nuts and re-measure the flange face
clearances. Once you are satisfied that you have the engine in the correct
position, tighten the flange connecting bolts.
�
If you still have problems after completing the alignment, check that you do
not have a propeller problem.
�
Rich Knowles
INDIGO - LF38
Halifax, NS
�
�
�
From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On
Behalf Of djhaug...@juno.com
Sent: August 14, 2012 09:57
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List A4 Engine alignment
�
Hello all,
�
Well i got out for a sea trial on Sunday. �The engine runs nicely but,
it vibrated like crazy underway. �It appears I did not align the engine.
�I've gotten it better aligned now but, are there any tips or techniques
to adjusting this thing to get dead nuts aligned?
�
It seems a very tedious�endeavor... �When I put a dial indicator
on the shaft, just aft of the coupler, I can't seem to get it better than .005
of an inch. �It started�out�at about .015 when i first put
it on and i thought that the .005 may have been acceptable but, it still
vibrated.
�
I've asked the yard mechanic to have a look and align it for me.
�However, if he doesn't get to it this week I'd like to get it done
myself before the weekend so that I can FINALLY go sailing!
�
Thanks,
Danny
�
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