Offsite would be ideal, though probably easier and cheaper to use an online
backup service like Carbonite.

Typically a NAS just sits somewhere in your network.


On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 11:22 PM, Joe S <joes...@shaw.ca> wrote:

> Thanks for the info. I'll have to look at raid. Don't know
> anything about it at the moment and don't really have the time
> at present. NAS I'm assuming to make it worthwhile I would have
> to have someplace outside my residence to back up to?
>
> On Fri, 30 May 2014 11:43:45 -0600
> Gustin Johnson <gus...@meganerd.ca> wrote:
>
> > Just a couple of comments:
> > RAID 5 is to be avoided at all costs.  This is a complicated
> > topic but the short answer is that I don't know anyone for
> > whom RAID5 is a good idea. Raid 1, 10, and 6 are the levels
> > that interest you.
> >
> > "Green" branded drives are fine since most NAS enclosures do
> > not use a hardware RAID controller.  The vast majority use
> > some version of embedded Linux and the software RAID stack
> > mdadm (not to be confused with the fakeraid stuff, mdadm is
> > awesome).  Having said that I usually purchase WD "Red" drives
> > solely for the longer warrenty (I actually don't care about
> > the other features, most of the features are marketing fluff
> > that you are not going to be using anyway).
> >
> > For purchasing suggestions I am a fan of the Synology line of
> > NAS devices. Hi Joe,
> > Having a single drive external, while better than nothing is
> > way not as good as having a 2 bay / drive raid 1 enclosure. in
> > terms of safety i am talking. A
> > step up in terms of safety would be a 4 drive raid 1 or 5
> > enclosure. A step up
> > in all these cases, is having the drives/enclosures as a NAS
> > device sitting in
> > a different place (safer?) than the backed up computers are,
> > and connected with
> > the network to them.
> >
> > Most 2-4 drive enclosures (that come with drives) state the
> > capacity as a raid
> > 0, which can be tricky for the uninitialized. A raid0
> > configuration will not increase safety, in fact it will reduce
> > it drastically, so when looking at populated 2 - 4 drive
> > units, as a rule of thumb, half the capacity for 2 disk
> > units (to get the capacity in raid 1 terms). the 4 disk raids
> > a bit more complicated. you can treat them as 2 pairs, this
> > halving the capacity, or as a
> > 4 disk raid 5, in which case you get 75% of the total disk
> > capacities.
> >
> > For direct connect enclosures, look for e-sata capability,
> > look for usb3 , specially if your backed up computer has these
> > ports, you can not go wrong with these features.
> >
> > For NAS devices, look for the once that have dual gigabit
> > Ethernet connectors,
> > they usually perform better speed wise.
> >
> > If you are going to invest on a 2-4 or more drive external nas
> > unit, think about augmenting it with UPS (uninterrupted power
> > supply), for capacity, add up the power rating on the NAS
> > unit. If you want to skimp out on the UPS, just
> > get a surge protector, it's your data after all.
> >
> > Here are some pointers:
> >
> > Single drive, direct connection:
> > http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX45802
> > http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX22324
> >
> > Dual drive, direct connection:
> > http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX40154
> > http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX43461
> >
> > 4 drive, direct connection:
> > (do consider the noise of 4 drives spinning near your desktop)
> > http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX30898/Reviews
> > and of course the drobo:
> > http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX42950
> >
> > Single drive, NAS:
> > http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX32282
> > http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX33812
> >
> > Dual drive, NAS:
> > http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX47066
> > http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX49052
> >
> > 4 drive , NAS:
> > http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX39139
> > http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX49654
> >
> > And you still need to get your drives.
> > Generally look for NAS / Storage rated drives, Green rated
> > drives tend to perform poorly in raid environments.
> > Desktop / workstation rated drives will do fine, specially
> > under low/medium stress situations.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On May 29, 2014 Thursday 14:22:21 Joe S wrote:
> > > I was reading the reviews of external hard drives. I found a
> > > number had problems with reliability. I don't have experience
> > > with these, but need something for backing up my home
> > > computer. Are there any that can be recommended? I also
> > > thought of getting an enclosure and a regular drive in case
> > > I have to replace it in the future. Probably 1 TB or so.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for suggestions
> > >
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