/quotation mode on People say I'm crazy I got diamonds on the soles of my shoes Well that's one way to lose These walking blues Diamonds on the soles of your shoes /end quote from the Paul Simon African concert
The title here is called "Slightly Obscure", but do you know what you are standing on here? This is a diamond, and once again your collective knowledge is producing another diamond to you the user. This list is known for this. Do you see what I am talking about here? Oh, and if you like, go listen/watch Paul and Ladysmith Black Mambazo! It will get your feet dancing. Mel On Sun, 2011-04-17 at 15:17 -0600, Lewko, Robert wrote: > On April 17, 2011 10:47:19 am Craig McLean wrote: > > I've mostly figured it out > > > > Gustin's suggestion is something I've done in the past but in this case > > there was no text box where I could enter an arbitrary string that I could > > then grep for. What I finally did was use the find command to find all > > files modified in the last 60 seconds. That technique found > > > > ~\.gconf\apps\gnome-power-manager/disks/%gconf.xml > > > > That technique of finding all files modified very recently didn't work > > reliably. It looks like Gnome or some subset of it does not flush changes > > made in the GUI to config files immediately, it can sometime take a few > > minutes before they show up on the file system. So I only really > > discovered the config file using this technique because I was lucky. > > After Gustin mentioned gconf-editor I used that and found it in there as > > well. > > > > All this really did was raise another question. I know what text file the > > setting is maintained in, but that still doesn't answer how the setting > > actually gets set on the system. Some more digging found that > > gnome-power-manager uses dbus to communicate these settings changes to a > > daemon called upower. It looks like upower manipulates the kernel > > directly to do power management, however I haven't absolutely confirmed > > this yet. > > > > It looks like hdparm and hdparm.conf aren't used under normal circumstances > > on an Ubuntu 10.10 desktop. That is a little bit annoying because on a > > standard Ubuntu 10.10 desktop the hdparm.conf file is sitting there in > > /etc with no warnings about how you really shouldn't be using it to manage > > power if you have Gnome installed. It looks like the hdparm.conf file > > will still get used if you do set things in it, which I suspect could lead > > to hilarious and infuriating problems for the unwary. > > > > If anybody knows if upower calls other tools or just manipulates the kernel > > directly I'd be interested to know. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: clug-talk-boun...@clug.ca [mailto:clug-talk-boun...@clug.ca] On > > Behalf Of Gustin Johnson Sent: April-17-11 4:04 AM > > To: CLUG General > > Subject: Re: [clug-talk] Slightly Obscure Ubuntu Question > > > > My first guess is that it is something buried in gconf-editor (this is > > like regedit for GNOME, a really bad IMO). Failing that, what I have > > done is set some weird value, in this case a random 3 digit number, > > and then gone grepping through the file system looking for that > > number. > > > I was curious about that too so I looked on wikipedia and what happens is > that > there is a gconf-daemon that examines when a file in the ~/.gconf (and also > /etc/gconf ?) directory is made. When it detects a change to one of the XML > files (presumably its using inotify for that) then it changes the setting > that > is called for. > > I've never liked Gnome and I don't like this somehow. Sometimes when I don't > like something like this its a day or two before I have my thoughts sorted > out > on the matter - we'll see. > > I can see what they were trying to do, ie. bring some sanity to the many many > different config files from /etc that all have their own syntax. However, > immediately what strikes me is that I hope they have taken care of the > condition where the system is interrupted when making a change to one of > these > XML files that leaves the XML file syntactically incorrect (not to mention > that > I hate XML in the first place!!! My preference would be JSON). The way > around > this would be to create the XML file elsewhere then copy the file into place > while ensuring that the file is smaller than one 4k block. > > _______________________________________________ > clug-talk mailing list > clug-talk@clug.ca > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > **Please remove these lines when replying _______________________________________________ clug-talk mailing list clug-talk@clug.ca http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) **Please remove these lines when replying
