It still relies on Shaw's IP backbone,  so it is only technically not a 
VOIP service.  The VOIP part is moved from the customer premise to their 
back end.  End result is that the service is only as reliable as the back 
end network, which is not quite there yet (for all VOIP providers).

I find it reprehensible the VOIP protection racket that Shaw is runnig.  
Although I don't really sympathise with the major corps fighting the "Net 
Neutrality" thing (I like the idea of Microsoft and Google footing the bill 
instead of me), I also do not Mafia style business practises.

Just my obviously touchy 2 cents.
Cheers,
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On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 22:05:41 -0600 "Graham Monk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>> You are right - I was just speaking to one of Shaw's technicians 
yesterday and
>> he told me that it is not voip (does not use the internet at all) and is
>> using a completely separate cable channel to their internet service.
>
>To "their internet service"
>
>It's voice, it goes to "their internet service" How is this NOT VOIP?
>
>Sorry, you just pushed one of my buttons, the " It's not VOIP" line
>that Shaw spouts, sounds far too much like a justification that an
>incumbent provider uses for charging twice as much as anyone else.
>That and the fat that if you use a competing service on something that
>is not Shaw extreme you tend to find the quality less than optimal.
>
>graham
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