You can run mtr without the admin enabling icmp (well technically, just
a few ICMP requests, echo reply, and a few others), you just won't have
info on the last couple of hops.

The problem is *likely* the firewall/router he is using, though without
more information I am only guessing based on what I commonly see. 

Carl wrote:
>> Kind of makes it hard to troubleshoot.  If possible, can you enable ICMP
>> (for pings) on the server?
>>
>>     
> I've asked the maintainer of the cvs sever to enable ICMP.
>
>   
>> Running mtr should be straightforward, look for a hop that is different
>> from the rest.
>>     
> I'll give mtr a try if I can get ICMP enabled.
>
>   
>> Has nothing to do with the port.  
>>     
> Good to know. I was going crazy trying to figure out if ethereal was
> incorrectly decoding checksums based on the port.
>
>   
>> I would try it from different locations, maybe it is something between
>> two peers (eg. telus and shaw periodically have QoS issues between their
>> respective networks)
>>     
> I've now tried it from both telus and shaw and different home firewalls
> and all exhibit the same problem.
>
> I'll have to be patient and hope they enable ICMP for me.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Carl
>
>
>   


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