You could try blocking outbound port 80 traffic to these servers as
well:

207.46.110.48
207.46.110.254
213.199.154.54
216.178.160.34
207.68.178.239
194.130.106.132
195.33.103.52
213.199.154.11
213.249.102.94

On Fri, 2004-08-13 at 17:32, Paul Greidanus wrote:
> You might want to look at working with a default-deny ruleset then.. 
> allow only a few things, and only where you can't throw it through a 
> proxy..
> 
> Allow Port 80 to a squid cache, allow 25 to your internal MX cache.. 
> 53/UDP to internal DNS server.. 110/143/993/995 to the company 
> webserver.. But, user education is almost always a better bet.
> 
> On Aug 13, 2004, at 5:19 PM, Shawn Grover wrote:
> 
> > did some more research on this...
> >
> > apparently if port 1863 is blocked, MSN then switches to some random 
> > port above 1024 using HTTP.  Next, I tried to block a specific server 
> > (messenger.hotmail.com) but that didn't work either - I guess MSN 
> > switches to another server is if the first can't be found....
> >
> > hmmm... gotta wonder why they would make it so tough to "turn off".
> >
> > Shawn
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Behalf Of Shawn Grover
> > Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 4:29 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; CLUG General
> > Subject: RE: [clug-talk] Blocking MSN with IPTables?
> >
> >
> > Thanks Pete.
> >
> > Unfortunately, that code doesn't seem to be working.  I've placed the 
> > commands right after the enable masquerading commands, but no luck - 
> > we can still connect and send messages....
> >
> > I even looked up what server we were connecting to 
> > (messenger.hotmail.com), found it's IP (207.46.104.20), and changed 
> > the second line.  Still no luck.  (and there are no #'s in the script 
> > either...)
> >
> > Thanks anyways.
> >
> > Shawn
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Behalf Of Pete
> > Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 3:58 PM
> > To: CLUG General
> > Subject: Re: [clug-talk] Blocking MSN with IPTables?
> >     To block MSN messenger:
> >     # iptables -A FORWARD -p TCP --dport 1863 -j DROP
> >     # iptables -A FORWARD -d 64.4.13.0/24 -j DROP
> >
> > < Somebody that can confirm those 2 lines? >
> >
> > They still can use web-enabled chat services...
> > And what if a user know how to port-redirect ... ?
> >
> > My opinion : don't block it, educate/ask users, log, detect misuse, 
> > warn, and give pink slip so that he/she can use MSN @ home all day...
> >
> > Peter
> >
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