Women?  Well lets not be biased...  Not everyone on this list go for
women, we have women on this list too you know.  Now where getting into
HDD swapping?... I'm *NOT* even going to touch that... too easy.  Now
what was I going to ask... oh yeah where can I get some cheap 20GB
HDDs?  I haven't found any advertised at vfxweb.com


On Wed, 2004-03-03 at 11:12, Jon Copeland wrote:
> What a fantastic idea!  Why did 'HD Caddy' slip my mind!!?  I will buy a 
> few with a couple 20GB's as soon as possible.
> 
> "Some people, you know right away it won't it won't work out, some
>   you want to get to know a little better and so on" -> but they're all 
> women at the end of the day ;)
> 
> -j-
> 
> Marcel Lecker wrote:
> > Right on Jon,
> > 
> > As I've said before, I see the whole distro choice thing as similar to
> > dating. Some people, you know right away it won't it won't work out, some
> > you want to get to know a little better and so on. If you have broadband and
> > a burner, go to Linuxiso.org and go nuts. Get a second hard drive (and a set
> > of drive caddies) or cheap second box and drink deep! explore! take chances!
> > 
> > 
> > It's the best way to get a sense of the options. Who cares if you're
> > reinstalling a new distro every week!
> > 
> > After a while you'll find one you like better than the others (who cares
> > why). That may be the one to explore in greater depth and really get to
> > know. 
> > 
> > Marcel 
> > 
> > 
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Jon Copeland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 12:48 AM
> >>To: CLUG General
> >>Subject: Re: [clug-talk] OT::What are the main Linux Distros
> >>
> >>
> >>Oh wow, I couldn't agree with you more.  I eventually got to 
> >>a stage, in 
> >>my 'quest for linux', where I needed to try out as many distro's as 
> >>possible to strike gold upon which flavour I prefer.  And 
> >>since linux is 
> >>all about freedom of movement and choice, I chose Gentoo.  It 
> >>allows me 
> >>to completely customise the software to my needs, no longer 
> >>will I have 
> >>to deal with the applications that come bundled with the 
> >>bigger distros 
> >>that inevitably go unused and waste diskspace.
> >>
> >>Rock on Gentoo!
> >>
> >>-j-
> >>
> >>
> >>Andrew J. Kopciuch wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Tuesday 02 March 2004 23:13, Kevin Anderson wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>If you have Gentoo, why bother with the rest...  :)
> >>>>
> >>>>I'd say Suse, Debian and (unfortunately, Red Hat/Fedora). 
> >>
> >>round out the
> >>
> >>>>list.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>First off ... it is not unfortunate that Fedora / Red Hat 
> >>
> >>is a major 
> >>
> >>>distribution.  I was using Red Hat when Mandrake became a 
> >>
> >>distibution and 
> >>
> >>>when the first SuSE distribution was released.  I believe 
> >>
> >>that the early 
> >>
> >>>success of distributions like Red Hat made it possible for 
> >>
> >>the acceptance of 
> >>
> >>>others.  They are a major distribution, and rightfully so.  
> >>
> >>(I guess Alan Cox 
> >>
> >>>likes to work for an "unfortunate company")
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I'd give the nod to Fedora as a best first install, because it's the
> >>>>easiest to find dead tree documentation for.  (book stores, 
> >>
> >>etc)  It's also
> >>
> >>>>the most supported for closed source apps.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>I would think that any distribution is a good starting 
> >>
> >>point.  You may have 
> >>
> >>>some problems with your first choice, and you may not.  
> >>
> >>It's hard to say.  It 
> >>
> >>>all depends on a persons individual level of competance, 
> >>
> >>and understanding.  
> >>
> >>>It depends on what someone is looking to get out of the 
> >>
> >>deal.  Choosing a 
> >>
> >>>linux distro is like an ice cream shop.  Pick a flavour.  
> >>
> >>You like the green 
> >>
> >>>one ... then go green.  You say you've never had green before? 
> >>>
> >>>Some people may be expecting lime sherbert, and it turns 
> >>
> >>out to be avacado ice 
> >>
> >>>cream.  Well ... pick the chocolate one next time! ;-)
> >>>
> >>><after the fact>
> >>>I just read through the rest of this thread, and someone 
> >>
> >>else mentioned the 
> >>
> >>>ice cream analogy too.  Is there something about ice cream 
> >>
> >>and linux I 
> >>
> >>>missed?
> >>>
> >>>hmmmmmmm ... Baskin Robbins 9.0
> >>></>
> >>>
> >>>And whichever choice is made ... there is a plethera of 
> >>
> >>documentation 
> >>
> >>>available for any installation.  On the web, in books, 
> >>
> >>magazines, word of 
> >>
> >>>mouth.  OpenBSD has installation instructions on the CD 
> >>
> >>liner notes for 
> >>
> >>>example.  Docs are very easy to find for installations.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>SuSE would be my recommendation for a second install, 
> >>
> >>because the sooner
> >>
> >>>>you're off Red Hat, the better.  SuSE is a close second for 
> >>
> >>docs and Closed
> >>
> >>>>source app support, and with Novell promoting it, I expect 
> >>
> >>this gap will
> >>
> >>>>close fast.  Install isn't quite as easy as RH, but once 
> >>
> >>it's working, it's
> >>
> >>>>easy too.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>I disagree ... I had a horrid time with SuSE.  I support 
> >>
> >>their cause, and I 
> >>
> >>>support their distribution as a choice.  I recommend using 
> >>
> >>SuSE to several 
> >>
> >>>people actually.  I however have not had good experiences 
> >>
> >>with it, and I 
> >>
> >>>prefer to use Fedora.  I could say the same for Debian.  I 
> >>
> >>am not about to 
> >>
> >>>start a which distro is king war.  I know several others 
> >>
> >>disagree with me ... 
> >>
> >>>and that's fine.  That's fantastic actually.   I have the 
> >>
> >>choice ... and so 
> >>
> >>>does everyone else.
> >>>
> >>>I admin servers with other colleagues.  Some like SuSE, or 
> >>
> >>Mandrake. If I was 
> >>
> >>>installing the machine it would not be my choice.  Do I 
> >>
> >>really have a bone to 
> >>
> >>>pick if SuSe, or Mandrake is installed ... well no.  
> >>>
> >>>They'd all run a linux kernel right?  They'd all have the 
> >>
> >>same software 
> >>
> >>>available (like apache, postfix, PHP, postgres, bind, CVS, 
> >>
> >>etc.) right?  
> >>
> >>>Actually Aaron and I both use a RH6.2 box, as CVS and DNS.  
> >>
> >>Is it a big 
> >>
> >>>deal? ... not to me.  He mentioned upgrading the box an 
> >>
> >>installing SuSE on 
> >>
> >>>it.  Again not a big deal.  It's granny smith vs. golden 
> >>
> >>delicious.  Both 
> >>
> >>>still apples.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Debian is popular, and well documented on-line, but it's a 
> >>
> >>PITA to install.
> >>
> >>>>It's worth knowing a bit about simply because it's a common 
> >>
> >>reference
> >>
> >>>>platform, though this is waning fast.
> >>>>
> >>>>Gentoo is where you should go after Suse.  It's faster than 
> >>
> >>any of the
> >>
> >>>>others, it's lighter, and I find it much easier to 
> >>
> >>maintain.  It's not
> >>
> >>>>nearly as hard to install as Debian, but it's certainly not 
> >>
> >>as easy as Suse
> >>
> >>>>or Fedora.  Gentoo is also used for some interesting 
> >>
> >>projects (Hardened
> >>
> >>>>Gentoo, for example).  The only thing it doesn't have going 
> >>
> >>for it is (and
> >>
> >>>>Personally, I don't care, but others do, I know...) LSB compliance.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>I think the bottom line is that there is no correct path to 
> >>
> >>take.  The distro 
> >>
> >>>debate will go on forever.  There is no right answer, and I 
> >>
> >>would be 
> >>
> >>>discouraged to see people choose SuSE, or Fedora, Gentoo, Mandrake, 
> >>>Slackware, Debian or any other operating system just 
> >>
> >>because someone else, 
> >>
> >>>somewhere, said so.  I am all for every choice available, I 
> >>
> >>also support 
> >>
> >>>people making up their own minds as to the choices.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Expand your knowledge everyone.  Learn some history, learn 
> >>
> >>some present, and 
> >>
> >>>make informed choices.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Andy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>P.S. Although I've never used it .... I do hear really good 
> >>
> >>things about 
> >>
> >>>Gentoo.  Just thought I'd throw that out there.  :-)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>A~
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