Bumping this thread. Does anyone else have any opinions?
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 04:02:31PM -0500, Chip Childers wrote: > I can always count on Sebastien to review things like this (thanks!)... > > On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 09:53:30PM +0100, Sebastien Goasguen wrote: > > inline > > On Feb 21, 2013, at 6:21 PM, Chip Childers <chip.child...@sungard.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I feel like we have reached a consensus around the idea of graduating > > > [1]. > > > If this is incorrect, or anyone feels that their perspective or concerns > > > were not addressed, please say so. > > > > > > Continuing down the path towards an eventual graduation, I took the > > > liberty of drafting the vote email that we would send to the IPMC, > > > including the draft graduation resolution that would be sent to the > > > board if the IPMC approves of our graduation. > > > > > > I'd like to get your comments and suggested changes... > > > > > > Keep in mind that there are several places where we have placeholders in > > > this draft. That includes committer and PMC numbers, the PMC chair > > > name, and several reference links that need to be added as we finalize > > > things. > > > > > > The pre-amble to the IPMC vote is totally up to us, although I modeled > > > it after another project's graduation vote thread. Comments welcome on > > > how we express our readiness to the IPMC! > > > > > > The graduation resolution is based on a template, but the relevant > > > portion to review is how I chose to scope the project. Namely this > > > text: > > > > > >> related to the development of software to deploy and manage large > > >> networks of virtual machines, as a highly available, highly scalable > > >> Infrastructure as a Service (IaaS) cloud computing platform. > > > > > > I stole this from our project's home page ;) > > > > > > Information from the incubator on how to best describe the project > > > within a charter is at [2]. > > > > > > [1] http://markmail.org/message/3nluchj5q5waguws > > > [2] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#tlp-resolution > > > > > > Here's the draft vote email and resolution: > > > > > > ************************************************* > > > > > > Apache CloudStack entered the Incubator in April of 2012. We have made > > > significant progress with the project since moving over to Apache. We have > > > XX committers and XX PPMC members listed on our status page at [1], not > > > including > > > the 8 mentors that helped guide our community through incubation. XX of > > > the > > > committers and XX of the PPMC members were added after the podling was > > > formed. Additionally, XX of our mentors will be remaining with the > > > project as it transitions into a TLP, with XX transitioning into the PMC > > > and XX deciding to only remain as committers on the project. > > > > > > We have verified that Apache CloudStack is a suitable name [2], and the > > > CloudStack marks have been donated from Citrix to the ASF. > > > > > > > marks or brands ? > > It's technically a "word mark" to the USPTO: > > http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc&state=4006%3Ax29ohx.1.1&p_search=searchss&p_L=50&BackReference=&p_plural=yes&p_s_PARA1=&p_tagrepl~%3A=PARA1%24LD&expr=PARA1+AND+PARA2&p_s_PARA2=cloudstack&p_tagrepl~%3A=PARA2%24COMB&p_op_ALL=AND&a_default=search&a_search=Submit+Query&a_search=Submit+Query > > And the above statement is in anticipation of that transfer, which has > not yet happened. > > > > > > We completed two releases (Apache CloudStack 4.0.0-incubating and Apache > > > CloudStack 4.0.1-incubating) and are currently preparing for two more > > > (4.0.2 > > > and 4.1.0). > > > > > > The community of Apache CloudStack is active, healthy, and growing and has > > > demonstrated the ability to self-govern using accepted Apache practices. > > > > > We have created bylaws and posted them on our wiki [5]. > > > > > The Apache CloudStack community voted overwhelmingly to graduate [3], > > > collecting XXXXX binding votes from our mentors and IPMC members XXXX. > > > You > > > can view the discussion at [4]. > > > > > Regarding [3], I just want to check that we have not yet voted on > > graduation, correct ? > > Therefore the "overwhelming" is in anticipation of the vote result ? > > > > I'm a "glass half full" kind of guy! > > Yes, that's just anticipation. I'd change it when we actually vote and > have results. > > > > > > > > > > Please cast your votes: > > > > > > [ ] +1 Graduate Apache CloudStack from Apache Incubator > > > [ ] +0 Indifferent to graduation status of Apache CloudStack > > > [ ] -1 Reject graduation of Apache CloudStack from Apache Incubator > > > because... > > > > > > We'll run the vote for at least 72 hours (closing at the earliest at > > > XXXX.) > > > > > > [1] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/cloudstack.html > > > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-23 > > > [3] *insert graduation vote thread link* > > > [4] > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-cloudstack-dev/201302.mbox/%3C20130213145014.GE800%40USLT-205755.sungardas.corp%3E > > > [5] > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/CLOUDSTACK/apache-cloudstack-project-bylaws.html > > > > > > X. Establish the Apache CloudStack Project > > > > > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of > > > the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish > > > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance > > > of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public, > > > related to the development of software to deploy and manage large > > > networks of virtual machines, as a highly available, highly scalable > > > Infrastructure as a Service (IaaS) cloud computing platform. > > > > What happens if CloudStack starts to do more than manage large networks of > > VMs ? > > Pure theoretical speculation on my part. > > Very good point. We do bare-metal already. > > How about: > > "software to deploy and manage compute, storage and network services, as > a highly available, highly scalable Infrastructure as a Service (IaaS) > cloud computing platform" > > Thoughts? > > > > > > > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee > > > (PMC), to be known as the "Apache CloudStack Project", be and hereby is > > > established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the Apache CloudStaack Project be and hereby is responsible > > > > CloudStack > > Ack > > > > > > for the creation and maintenance of software related to development of > > > software to deploy and manage large networks of virtual machines, as > > > a highly available, highly scalable Infrastructure as a Service (IaaS) > > > cloud computing platform. > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache CloudStack" be and > > > hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the > > > direction > > > of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache CloudStack Project, > > > and to > > > have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the > > > scope > > > of responsibility of the Apache CloudStack Project; and be it further > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby > > > are appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache CloudStack > > > Project: > > > > > > * *insert PMC list* > > > > > > > Committers won't be considered members of the "Project" ? > > > > For the purpose of the board resolution, only the PMC is listed. This > is a standard practice for these resolutions. > > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that XXXXXXXXX be appointed to the > > > office of Vice President, Apache CloudStack, to serve in accordance with > > > and > > > subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the > > > Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal > > > or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the initial Apache CloudStack PMC be and hereby is tasked > > > with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open > > > development > > > and increased participation in the Apache CloudStack Project; and be it > > > further > > > > > We will have new bylaws after graduation ? > > I hope not. My understanding is that we have already created them, and > therefore we can take them with us. > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the Apache CloudStack Project be and hereby is tasked with > > > the migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator CloudStack > > > podling; > > > and be it further > > > > > > RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache > > > Incubator CloudStack podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator Project > > > are > > > hereafter discharged. > > > > > > >
