> -----Original Message-----
> From: Animesh Chaturvedi
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 3:32 PM
> To: 'Marcus Sorensen'
> Subject: RE: [ACS41] Can folks please take responsibility for updating their
> own
> Jira tickets?
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Marcus Sorensen [mailto:shadow...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 3:10 PM
> > To: Chip Childers
> > Cc: Animesh Chaturvedi; cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: [ACS41] Can folks please take responsibility for updating
> > their own Jira tickets?
> >
> > Well, for example, take
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-644. It is
> > 'unresolved', but the code was merged a few weeks back. It has had two
> > subtasks for awhile. Do I close it, or do I wait because those
> > subtasks are dependencies of the whole package?
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Chip Childers
> > <chip.child...@sungard.com>
> > wrote:
> > > On Feb 5, 2013, at 5:52 PM, Marcus Sorensen <shadow...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Or do we want to go to a system where we only create tasks to
> > >> test/document features that are completed? That might make it
> > >> easier for the manager to see what's really still pending.
> > >
> [Animesh>] IMO adding doc or test tasks only after a feature is complete does
> not allow for pre-release planning. A feature should be considered complete
> when all coding, testing and documentation tasks are done not just coding
>
>
> > > So that's sort of what I did, except too many people had features
> > > that weren't realistically going to hit in time for 4.1.0 at the
> > > time we created them. Those QA and doc tasks were added pretty late
> > > in the cycle, which is another concern about folks being realistic.
> > > Sure, many features will slip on every release. But this many?
> > > Sounds like folks were assuming too much, and not heeding the
> > > requests to pull things out of 4.1.0 preemptively.
> > >
> [Animesh>] Yes it was unrealistic and we can only get better from this.
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Animesh Chaturvedi
> > >> <animesh.chaturv...@citrix.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>> From: Marcus Sorensen [mailto:shadow...@gmail.com]
> > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 1:53 PM
> > >>>> To: Animesh Chaturvedi
> > >>>> Cc: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > >>>> Subject: Re: [ACS41] Can folks please take responsibility for
> > >>>> updating their own Jira tickets?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Someone created sub-tickets for ours (QA, etc). It doesn't feel
> > >>>> right to close them until those pending subtasks are also
> > >>>> completed. I made a comment that the features were completed and
> > >>>> merged, and assumed that the owners of the sub tasks would update
> > >>>> the
> > ticket as well.
> > >>> [Animesh>] Yes agreed they need to be closed when those subtasks
> > >>> are done by their respective owners
> > >>>
> > >>>> So perhaps at least some of it is just understanding how the flow
> > >>>> is supposed to work.
> > >>