Good luck with the bake-off! Needless to say, if you need any help you know where to find us ;-)
Cheers, Hugo -----Original Message----- From: Musayev, Ilya [mailto:imusa...@webmd.net] Sent: woensdag 23 januari 2013 16:11 To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: CloudStack VS OpenStack - stack wars Thanks guys. Two week bake of it is.. Chip Childers <chip.child...@sungard.com> wrote: On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 4:14 AM, Sebastien Goasguen <run...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ilya, it's a difficult one to answer on this list. > > However, if you try to remain objective I would point out some reading to > your management: > > -Dell is holding off on openstack cloud offering: > http://www.cloudecosystem.com/author.asp?section_id=1873&doc_id=256815 > > -HP cloud running on openstack is considered a fork (I could not find a more > recent article, so one would need to check this): > http://www.wired.com/insights/2011/09/hp-launches-cloud-beta-dell-warn > s-them-on-openstack-dont-fork-it-up/ > > -And the gartner "warning": > http://www.gartner.com/technology/reprints.do?id=1-1C3IGID&ct=120919&s > t=sb > > Other than that, I think the best thing to do is a 2 weeks bake off at your > company to evaluate what works best for your local constraints. Ilya, I'd agree with Sebastien... Do a bake-off. It's always best to try technologies like this in the lab setting, before making a decision. To be fair to OpenStack - use one of the distros that has solved the installation complexity (like StackOps). That lab time will give you the technical part of your answer. BTW - I'd actually say that an even more fair bake-off would include at least one other option: Euca, OpenNebula, or something else. As for "greater adoption/usage rate", I don't want to get into that argument on the list. Commercial interests surrounding both projects are going to continue to wage a marketing war with each other, and that means that the actual project's are going to be frequently judged through those filters. I would consider the number of known *production* installations of each as a way to cut through the marketing. One concern that a business leader may have around CloudStack, given the previously mentioned "marketing war", is the potential longevity of the project. I would think about it like this: to me, the donation of CS to ASF all but assured a long life for the project. Here, users quickly become contributors (and then committers). Our project as a great "user" representation in development discussions, and that means allot to the life of a project. Also consider that the ASF has a proven track record of success for large OSS projects. Just think about the other Apache projects, and the success that they have had in the market (e.g.: the Hadoop family of projects). That's why it's so important to me that the community continue to embrace the "Apache Way". ;-) -chip > -Sebastien > > > On Jan 23, 2013, at 1:35 AM, "Musayev, Ilya" <imusa...@webmd.net> wrote: > >> So would like to start by saying - I'm all for CS - I really like the >> community, what it offers and simplicity. >> >> With that in mind, I need help defending CloudStack vs OpenStack to my >> management team. >> >> Basically I was approached by management team saying they attended an >> executive meeting and there is a much greater adoption/usage rate for >> openstack vs cloudstack. I don't want to mention the numbers - but they are >> very significant. As a point of comparison, just go to any job site (I used >> linkedin job search feature) and use look for number of current opening for >> cloudstack and then openstack. >> >> With that in mind, I need help defending cloudstack - in house. >> >> If anyone did a bake off in house - that is recent, please help and >> contribute to this thread. >> >> I will the post it on wiki if no-one objects. >> >> Thanks >> ilya > >
