You could always run them side by side as well, but at least with a devcloud you'll have a working model to go off of if you run into issues in building your own.
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Mike Tutkowski < mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com> wrote: > OK, cool...I can start with DevCloud, but at some point I'd like to create > my own from scratch just to understand the details better. For the time > being, though, I do want to get up and running, use SolidFire storage, > etc., so using DevCloud is the way to go. > > > On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Marcus Sorensen <shadow...@gmail.com > >wrote: > > > The only thing that works in virtualbox for running VMs is a Xen kernel. > > You can roll your own distribution with a Xen kernel, sure, but devcloud > is > > preconfigured and is documented on how to set up. That shouldn't stop > you > > from doing your own, though! > > > > On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 8:28 PM, Mike Tutkowski < > > mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com> wrote: > > > > > No...it is network accessible...I was just thinking I would not use > NFS. > > > If I use SolidFire's storage, run the management server on my host OS, > > > then I guess all that leaves for DevCloud to do is provide a hypervisor > > to > > > run VMs...is that true? If that's the case, I could just run my own > > > hypervisor in a different VirtualBox VM. That's all I was thinking. > Do > > > you think that's not a good way to go? Just curious. > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Marcus Sorensen <shadow...@gmail.com > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > Why not? Is solid fire storage not network accessible? > > > > On Jan 22, 2013 8:11 PM, "Mike Tutkowski" < > > mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > OK, guys...thanks for the info! > > > > > > > > > > In my case, I will need to make use of SolidFire's storage, so > using > > > > > DevCloud for storage is probably not going to be applicable for me. > > > > > > > > > > I could use DevCloud to run VMs...I see now. I also have another > VM > > > I've > > > > > been using that has XenServer installed where I could run my VMs. > > This > > > > is > > > > > making more sense to me now. I just wasn't really confident I > > > understood > > > > > what DevCloud provided. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Marcus Sorensen < > > shadow...@gmail.com > > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Devcloud is where your VMS run. So in cloudstack when you add > > hosts, > > > it > > > > > is > > > > > > your host. In production you generally would have 3 or so > > management > > > > > > servers controlling tens or hundreds of hosts that run VMS. So > the > > > mac > > > > is > > > > > > your management server and devcloud is what it controls. > > > > > > On Jan 22, 2013 6:34 PM, "Mike Tutkowski" < > > > > mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry about what might be silly questions :) but if I develop > my > > > code > > > > > on > > > > > > > Mac OS X, I'm not really sure what DevCloud would do for me? > > Could > > > > you > > > > > > > explain that part to me? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Mike Tutkowski < > > > > > > > mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ah, didn't realize that DevCloud2 was Debian based. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm developing on Max OS X. So, it sounds like for a > developer > > > in > > > > > that > > > > > > > > situation, it is best for me to download the source code to > my > > > Mac, > > > > > > code, > > > > > > > > build, run, test, etc. on Mac OS X? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Fang Wang < > > fang.w...@citrix.com > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> IT depends on what OS X you have. IF you have Ubuntu, then > > > either > > > > > > > >> DevCloud or your environment is the same. > > > > > > > >> You may directly use your Ubuntu. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> But if OS X is windows, for some hypervisor, you can't > > directly > > > > > deploy > > > > > > > MS > > > > > > > >> on Windows. > > > > > > > >> Then DevCloud provides a way to bypass this Windows > > limitation. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> -Fang > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > >> From: Mike Tutkowski [mailto:mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com] > > > > > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 3:43 PM > > > > > > > >> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > >> Subject: DevCloud Question > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Hi everyone, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> I'm curious to learn a bit about DevCloud. I don't > currently > > > > > > understand > > > > > > > >> how it relates from a development-workflow perspective. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> My host OS is OS X. I have VirtualBox, Eclipse, Git, Maven, > > > etc. > > > > > > > >> installed in OS X. I am running the DevCloud appliance via > > > > > > VirtualBox. > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > >> can bring up the CloudStack GUI and log in this way and > that's > > > > easy > > > > > > and > > > > > > > >> great to be able to do. What I don't really understand is > how > > > our > > > > > > > >> development workflow should be using DevCloud. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Do I develop code in Eclipse on OS X and port the artifacts > > over > > > > to > > > > > > > >> DevCloud to update it? Am I supposed to develop directly on > > > > Ubuntu > > > > > in > > > > > > > >> DevCloud (and, as such, should not use Eclipse). Should I > > just > > > > > ignore > > > > > > > >> DevCloud completely and develop everything on OS X? > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> I'm a little lost here. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Thanks!! > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> -- > > > > > > > >> *Mike Tutkowski* > > > > > > > >> *Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.* > > > > > > > >> e: mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com > > > > > > > >> o: 303.746.7302 > > > > > > > >> Advancing the way the world uses the > > > > > > > >> cloud<http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play> > > > > > > > >> *(tm)* > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > *Mike Tutkowski* > > > > > > > > *Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.* > > > > > > > > e: mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com > > > > > > > > o: 303.746.7302 > > > > > > > > Advancing the way the world uses the cloud< > > > > > > > http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play> > > > > > > > > *™* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > *Mike Tutkowski* > > > > > > > *Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.* > > > > > > > e: mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com > > > > > > > o: 303.746.7302 > > > > > > > Advancing the way the world uses the > > > > > > > cloud<http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play> > > > > > > > *™* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > *Mike Tutkowski* > > > > > *Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.* > > > > > e: mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com > > > > > o: 303.746.7302 > > > > > Advancing the way the world uses the > > > > > cloud<http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play> > > > > > *™* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > *Mike Tutkowski* > > > *Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.* > > > e: mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com > > > o: 303.746.7302 > > > Advancing the way the world uses the > > > cloud<http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play> > > > *™* > > > > > > > > > -- > *Mike Tutkowski* > *Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.* > e: mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com > o: 303.746.7302 > Advancing the way the world uses the > cloud<http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play> > *™* >
