On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Hari Kannan <hari.kan...@citrix.com> wrote:
> Hi Chip,
>
> The admin (Operator) will first have to make this an option of the service 
> (compute) offering if he want to provide this. Then the end-user gets to 
> choose if he wants it or not. This is what I understood of David's 
> suggestion, which I seconded - sounds OK?
>

Yup, we're saying the same thing now.  Thanks for clarifying your point!

> Hari
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.child...@sungard.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2013 1:08 PM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: Kelven Yang
> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Configurable setting to use linked clones or not on 
> VMware
>
> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Hari Kannan <hari.kan...@citrix.com> wrote:
>> I agree with David's suggestion of making it 2 way - service (compute)
>> offering as well as letting the user to select
>
> Just to be clear...  I'm against letting users select a feature like this 
> without the operator making the decision to explicitly enable it somehow.  As 
> long as that's considered, I'm good with this.
>
>> Hari
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Nalley [mailto:da...@gnsa.us]
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2013 8:54 AM
>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Cc: Kelven Yang
>> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Configurable setting to use linked clones or
>> not on VMware
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Chip Childers <chip.child...@sungard.com> 
>> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 11:37 AM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Chip Childers
>>>> <chip.child...@sungard.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Hari Kannan <hari.kan...@citrix.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wish to propose a better VM sync in CloudStack - I have added
>>>>>> some details
>>>>>> here<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Config
>>>>>> u
>>>>>> rable+setting+to+use+linked+clones+or+not+on+VMware> along with a
>>>>>> JIRA ticket 670
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please review and comment
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hari Kannan
>>>>>
>>>>> +1 to the concept.
>>>>>
>>>>> Same question as other emails: what release are you thinking for this?
>>>>>  Is someone taking this work on?
>>>>>
>>>>> I pulled out your question on the design page, and have some thoughts:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Should this be at a template level or account level or VM level??
>>>>>
>>>>> Isn't this something that's more infrastructure centric?  i.e.:
>>>>> linked clone functionality is provided by the hypervisor, and
>>>>> really is an operator decision (not a user decision).  Should the
>>>>> configuration reflect that, instead of leaking the infra
>>>>> implementation details to the end user?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't know that this is truly infra-specific - why not make it
>>>> part of the service offering; like local storage. Admin has to
>>>> configure it, but user gets the option of choosing it.
>>>>
>>>> --David
>>>>
>>>
>>> That's reasonable...  the concern I have is that I'm not interested
>>> in the end user selecting this without the operator agreeing to
>>> offering it.  Service offerings are certainly a way to accomplish
>>> that goal, while also allowing users to decide when to use it.
>>>
>>> -chip
>>
>> My concern is that I don't want it to be boolean for an entire swath of 
>> infra - there are use cases for both.
>>
>> --David
>>
>

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