Ilya,

That's for formal votes (and in this case it would be any committer).
However this isn't a formal vote! We're usually going based on a full
community consensus. Your opinion certainly matters!

Sorry if we confused things, but the whole bylaw thing is for when
more formality is required.

- chip

On Dec 20, 2012, at 4:12 PM, "Musayev, Ilya" <imusa...@webmd.net> wrote:

> Based on the CloudStack bylaws (still in review state, sent out by Chip if 
> I'm not mistaken) and previous experience on this mailing list - it seemed 
> that only PPMC had vote ability.
>
> If I misinterpreted that, my apology.
>
> Alex Huang <alex.hu...@citrix.com> wrote:
> I didn't know people are granted on voting power.  Where did you see that in 
> this community?
>
> --Alex
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Hari Kannan [mailto:hari.kan...@citrix.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 10:55 AM
>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Raise cluster size limit to 16 on VMware
>>
>> I have no voting power either... I proposed to add this feature (didnt know
>> there was an existing proposal) yesterday
>>
>> Hari
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Musayev, Ilya [imusa...@webmd.net]
>> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 1:50 PM
>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Raise cluster size limit to 16 on VMware
>>
>> Though I have no voting power, I agree we should have a config setting for
>> using linked clone or traditional clone.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Hari Kannan [mailto:hari.kan...@citrix.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 1:37 PM
>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Raise cluster size limit to 16 on VMware
>>
>> +1 on making linked clones optional
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Tamas Monos [tam...@veber.co.uk]
>> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 1:01 PM
>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Raise cluster size limit to 16 on VMware
>>
>> Sorry for the side-track for a moment but just another reason to get rid of
>> linked-in clone template management on vmware in the long-run.
>> I still do not believe using linked-in clones is actually beneficial taking 
>> into
>> account it drawbacks: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-
>> 529
>>
>> Regards
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Alex Huang [mailto:alex.hu...@citrix.com]
>> Sent: 20 December 2012 16:50
>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Raise cluster size limit to 16 on VMware
>>
>> Kelven offered a reason earlier.
>>
>> "8-host limitation comes from the limitation posted from VMFSv3 for linked-
>> clone usage. So in CloudStack, it is an artificial limit we post to reduce 
>> possible
>> runtime problems."
>>
>> It's due to VMFSv3 and usage of linked clone in CloudStack.
>>
>> --Alex
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.child...@sungard.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 8:46 AM
>>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Raise cluster size limit to 16 on VMware
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 10:24 AM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 1:54 AM, Koushik Das
>>>> <koushik....@citrix.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> This http://www.vmware.com/pdf/vsphere5/r51/vsphere-51-
>>> configuration-maximums.pdf mentions that the max. can be 32 for ESX 5.1.
>>> Any specific reason to make it 16? Also it needs to be seen that this
>>> limit works across all supported ESX versions.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Koushik
>>>>
>>>> Yes - the different versions having different limits complicates things a 
>>>> bit.
>>>> 5.1 = 32, 5.0 = 16 4.x = 8?
>>>>
>>>> --David
>>>
>>> 4, 5 and 5.1 are all 32 hosts per cluster.  Raw metrics, not using a
>>> more complex algo to calculate the more realistic cap.  Just curious,
>>> but are there more specific reasons that we are talking about 4.x
>>> having a lower number?
>>>
>>> http://www.vmware.com/pdf/vsphere4/r40/vsp_40_config_max.pdf
>>> http://www.vmware.com/pdf/vsphere5/r50/vsphere-50-configuration-
>>> maximums.pdf
>>> http://www.vmware.com/pdf/vsphere5/r51/vsphere-51-configuration-
>>> maximums.pdf
>>>
>>> -chip
>
>

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