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>> 1. Can you remind me of the download link for the Wheezy systemVM? I've >> only seen Squeeze. I confused the names - I think - its squeeze - wheezy is the latest offering with 3.x kernel. I guess by now you noticed I'm not debian user :) >> 2. In addition to a Debian system VM, I'd like to see one and only one >> CentOS VM in addition to Debian. I get the impression that CentOS has a >> different and desirable licensing regime, but do correct me if I'm wrong. I'm under impression CentOS has very liberal licensing structure. I don't believe we should have an issue here - but I'm by no means a licensing expert. I think it's reasonable to have 1 other offering only.. Thanks ilya -----Original Message----- From: Donal Lafferty [mailto:donal.laffe...@citrix.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 3:34 PM To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: CentOS System Offering Thread 1. Can you remind me of the download link for the Wheezy systemVM? I've only seen Squeeze. 2. In addition to a Debian system VM, I'd like to see one and only one CentOS VM in addition to Debian. I get the impression that CentOS has a different and desirable licensing regime, but do correct me if I'm wrong. DL -----Original Message----- From: Musayev, Ilya [mailto:imusa...@webmd.net] Sent: 12 December 2012 8:06 PM To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: CentOS System Offering Thread Joe Your point is clear and well taken. Nobody wants to be in business of maintaining myriad of distros out there for something that should not be changed anyway. I see two solutions then: 1) update the existing debian wheezy image to reflect latest fixes - which is probably something that should do anyway. 2) maybe have a section of - "user submitted and unsupported" system offerings? We can clearly state - we support 1 type of offering and other offerings are optional and unsupported - but your own responsibility and should be used by advanced users only. Thoughts? Regards -ilya -----Original Message----- From: Joe Brockmeier [mailto:j...@zonker.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 11:02 AM To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: CentOS System Offering Thread On Tue, Dec 11, 2012, at 11:32 PM, Marcus Sorensen wrote: > This is pretty important. Anyone should be able to roll their own, > rather than relying on a single potentially out-of-date image. It > seems like it would be pretty simple and straightforward on the face > of it, however many of the scripts have been written specifically for > Debian. I'd honestly be ok with having to stick to a particular distro > if I at least had clear instructions on how to make my own, I > understand the need to program against a single defined userspace. I see a potential problem with this. Any scenario where users are customizing part of the stack means additional variables which means additional problems. If we target Debian, trying to create a system VM from CentOS/RHEL means different libraries, etc. - which means a number of potential problems cropping up where there were none before. I'm not saying users *shouldn't* be able to do this - just that I haven't noticed anyone raising the issue that we'll probably start seeing a fair number more bugs if replacing the system VM becomes a standard practice. There's a reason, for instance, that Linux vendors don't support custom kernels - and what's being proposed here is swapping out an entire OS. It's going to make things a bit more tricky when someone reports a bug and they're using a roll-your-own system VM and the people doing the testing are using a different one. Again - not saying we shouldn't do this, but I'd like to see that given a bit more consideration when we're discussing the issue. Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier j...@zonker.net Twitter: @jzb http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
