> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kelven Yang [mailto:kelven.y...@citrix.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 1:31 PM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] git commit: Architecture refactoring - Stateless
> management server - Spring Framework initiatives
>
>
> On 11/12/12 10:58 AM, "Chip Childers" <chip.child...@sungard.com> wrote:
>
> >On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Kelven Yang <kelven.y...@citrix.com>
> >wrote:
> >>
> >> As part of architecture refactoring work, we are exploring some
> >>initiatives that would help CloudStack move toward more
> >>component-based  architecture, one of such efforts is to standardize
> >>the way on how a  single individual java component to be integrated
> >>into CloudStack system.
> >>
> >> CloudStack currently uses ComponentLocator to bootstrap components,
> >>it has  done a great job while in the mean time, there are a couple of
> >>issues with  this customized component injection framework (in my
> >>view).
> >>
> >> 1) ComponentLocator can not fully perform dependency injection, it
> >>can  inject independent components without a problem, however, when
> >>things come  with dependency, it will become tricky, although most of
> >>time auto-wiring  with @Inject annotation works, but in some other
> >>time, developers will  have to use following explicit wiring logic to
> >>make things work.
> >>
> >> @Local(value={UsageManager.class})
> >> public class UsageManagerImpl implements UsageManager, Runnable {
> >>     public static final Logger s_logger =
> >> Logger.getLogger(UsageManagerImpl.class.getName());
> >>
> >>     protected static final String DAILY = "DAILY";
> >>     protected static final String WEEKLY = "WEEKLY";
> >>     protected static final String MONTHLY = "MONTHLY";
> >>
> >>     private static final int HOURLY_TIME = 60;
> >>     private static final int DAILY_TIME = 60 * 24;
> >>     private static final int THREE_DAYS_IN_MINUTES = 60 * 24 * 3;
> >>     private static final int USAGE_AGGREGATION_RANGE_MIN = 10;
> >>
> >> --> hard-wiring logic goes here...
> >>     private final ComponentLocator _locator =
> >>ComponentLocator.getLocator(UsageServer.Name, "usage-
> components.xml",
> >>"log4j-cloud_usage");
> >>     private final AccountDao m_accountDao =
> >>_locator.getDao(AccountDao.class);
> >>     private final UserStatisticsDao m_userStatsDao =
> >>_locator.getDao(UserStatisticsDao.class);
> >>     private final UsageDao m_usageDao =
> _locator.getDao(UsageDao.class);
> >>     private final UsageVMInstanceDao m_usageInstanceDao =
> >>_locator.getDao(UsageVMInstanceDao.class);
> >>     private final UsageIPAddressDao m_usageIPAddressDao =
> >>_locator.getDao(UsageIPAddressDao.class);
> >>     private final UsageNetworkDao m_usageNetworkDao =
> >>_locator.getDao(UsageNetworkDao.class);
> >>     private final UsageVolumeDao m_usageVolumeDao =
> >>_locator.getDao(UsageVolumeDao.class);
> >>     private final UsageStorageDao m_usageStorageDao =
> >>_locator.getDao(UsageStorageDao.class);
> >>     private final UsageLoadBalancerPolicyDao
> >>m_usageLoadBalancerPolicyDao  =
> >>_locator.getDao(UsageLoadBalancerPolicyDao.class);
> >>     private final UsagePortForwardingRuleDao
> >>m_usagePortForwardingRuleDao  =
> >>_locator.getDao(UsagePortForwardingRuleDao.class);
> >>     private final UsageNetworkOfferingDao m_usageNetworkOfferingDao
> =
> >>_locator.getDao(UsageNetworkOfferingDao.class);
> >>     private final UsageVPNUserDao m_usageVPNUserDao =
> >>_locator.getDao(UsageVPNUserDao.class);
> >>     private final UsageSecurityGroupDao m_usageSecurityGroupDao =
> >>_locator.getDao(UsageSecurityGroupDao.class);
> >>     private final UsageJobDao m_usageJobDao =
> >>_locator.getDao(UsageJobDao.class);
> >>
> >> The problem of doing so is that we create a cross-reference between
> >>component and the component container, it breaks the principle of
> >>being  component-ized. In the above case, the component shouldn't
> >>really make any  assumption of its container, and the other problem is
> >>that developers will  sometimes be confused at when, under what
> >>situation, they can use @Inject  to wire a component or they have to
> >>use run-time wiring logic like above  to make it work.
> >>
> >>
> >> 2) AOP pattern is implicitly buried with current injection framework.
> >>
> >> AOP(Aspect Oriented Pattern) is very powerful concept, and CloudStack
> >>uses  it a lot, @DB annotation is a very typical example. However,
> >>wiring an  aspect is not that explicit, it buries inside those
> >>interceptors that work  together with ComponentLocator during
> >>injection phase. Although AOP  concept is powerful, but it better to
> >>be explicit, we need to encourage to  component-ize the AOP aspect
> >>itself as component, although  ComponentLocator has no problem to
> >>offer AOP support, it lacks of letting  people do it in a more
> >>explicit way.
> >>
> >> 3) Unit test integration
> >> In the example in 1), to perform a unit test on the component, it
> >>involves  with having to construct a mocked ComponentLocator, these
> >>little pieces  add up to make unit-testing a little challenge in
> >>CloudStack.
> >>
> >
> >+1 - this is problematic
> >
> >>
> >> 4) CloudStack specific logic
> >>
> >> ComponentLocator also has CloudStack specific assumptions on
> >>Adapters,  Managers, PluggableService etc, this has to move up to the
> >>business layer  and leave this underlying layer generic and clean, if
> >>in the future people  want to add some other cool stuff like
> >>CoolServiceGates etc, it requires  the developer to modify
> >>ComponentLocator, this kind of possibility alone  makes
> >>ComponentLocator itself not really a component, we should not
> >>encourage that.
> >>
> >> As a solution, we are exploring the possibility to adopt Spring
> >>Framework  into CloudStack, it has the ability to address all above
> >>issues, the goal  here is to leave all these generic concerns away
> >>from CloudStack core  business logic, and standardize the way we
> >>program in CloudStack. The goal  is
> >>
> >> 1) Individual component should be clean, no hard-coded assumption of
> >>any  component container framework
> >> 2) System to in layered with clean boundary. No business logic leaked
> >>into  generic plumbing layer.
> >> 3) AOP pattern to be explicit, represented through aspect component
> >>and  explicit wiring of the AOP
> >> 4) Make unit test simple, simple and simple (Junit Spring integration
> >>has  already done that)
> >>
> >
> >Great Goals...
> >
> >While Spring is an option, do you have any thoughts on Hugo's OSGi
> >suggestion?
>
>
>
> Our immediate focus right now is to first make interval component
> development easier, allow loosely coupled component to be integrated into
> CloudStack in a consistent and standard way. OSGi suggestion is a good one, I
> think once we have internally sliced CloudStack into a dozen of well
> encapsulated components, it will be a good option.
>
>
>
>
> >
> >Also, the AOP example you used relates to the persistence objects.  On
> >a related note, do you consider it a reasonable goal to switch to a
> >non-custom JPA framework?  IIRC, Hibernate isn't license compatible
> >(LGPL?). How about Apache's own OpenJPA
> ( http://openjpa.apache.org/ )?
>
> It is not that we are not considering of it, but just the amount of work and
> the priorities. Dependency Injection and Persistent framework by their own
> are separated projects and there are not many reasons for CloudStack not to
> use mature and popular ones so that we can focus on what we ought to. I
> personally prefer to see CloudStack going towards that direction, embrace
> some of the best from other communities and produce the best
> Orchestration Framework from our side.
>
> It will be easier to draw Java developers to CloudStack if the system looks
> familiar other than that he/she has to learn every single major plumbing
> work in order to get started. From this perspective, I support to go with 
> other
> popular persist framework like openJPA, just not sure whether or not it is a
> good time. But in anyway, once Spring work is in place, switching to these
> alternatives will become much easier too.

I tried openjpa before, still have the same issue that Alex pointed out 2 years 
ago(http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openjpa-users/201011.mbox/%3caanlktimeg4gi4nx92pozyzqdsyv3oatgu6ayzwba4...@mail.gmail.com%3E),
 the openjpa integration with eclipse is not good at all.

>
>
> >
> >>
> >> Since 4.0 is already out of the door, I re-raise the discussion here
> >> again, please feel free to share your opinions
> >>
> >> Kelven
> >>
> >>
> >> On 10/19/12 6:14 PM, "Kelven Yang" <kelven.y...@citrix.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >David,
> >> >
> >> >Thanks for the remind. As we are working on a feature
> >> >branch(Javelin)
> >>and
> >> >thought not to heat-up the mailing list while everyone is still busy
> >> >on getting the 4.0 release out of the door.
> >> >
> >> >We are evaluating the possibility to leverage Spring Framework to
> >> >standardize Dependency injection/AOP pattern usages in CloudStack.
> >>Spring
> >> >framework is very popular to Java community and under Apache license.
> >>By
> >> >switching the underlying architecture plumbing to a de-facto
> >>standardized
> >> >framework would help attract developers to focus more on CloudStack
> >>core
> >> >business logic with already familiar coding practices.
> >> >
> >> >We will not extensively use full featured Spring Framework, may
> >>primarily
> >> >on core DI/AOP features since these are commonly used in CloudStack,
> >> >we also haven't decided to go with Spring annotation based approach
> >> >or XML based approach yet. With currently check-ins, they are
> >> >annotation based which I personally prefer, however, this may
> >> >change, depends on how to
> >>get
> >> >our old code loaded nicely under Spring.
> >> >
> >> >If anyone does have a strong opinion on this, please feel free to
> >> >share with us.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Kelven
> >> >
> >> >On 10/19/12 3:47 PM, "David Nalley" <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>This adds a number of new dependencies.
> >> >>
> >> >>This needs to explicitly be discussed before it gets committed.
> >> >>See below for reference:
> >> >>http://markmail.org/message/huevw4ur73a64b5c
> >> >>
> >> >>On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 6:25 PM,  <kelv...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> >>> Updated Branches:
> >> >>>   refs/heads/javelin a75916d45 -> 8ef9e32cf
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Architecture refactoring - Stateless management server - Spring
> >> >>>Framework initiatives
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Project:
> >> >>>http://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-cloudstack/repo
> >> >>> Commit:
> >>
> >>>>>http://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-
> cloudstack/commit/
> >>>>>8ef
> >>>>>9e
> >> >>>3
> >> >>>2c
> >> >>> Tree:
> >>
> >>>>>http://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-cloudstack/tree/8e
> >>>>>f9e
> >>>>>32
> >> >>>c
> >> >>> Diff:
> >>
> >>>>>http://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-cloudstack/diff/8e
> >>>>>f9e
> >>>>>32
> >> >>>c
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Branch: refs/heads/javelin
> >> >>> Commit: 8ef9e32cfda4b1ce138ac167caa26521bd7a3508
> >> >>> Parents: a75916d
> >> >>> Author: Kelven Yang <kelven.y...@citrix.com>
> >> >>> Authored: Fri Oct 19 15:24:01 2012 -0700
> >> >>> Committer: Kelven Yang <kelven.y...@citrix.com>
> >> >>> Committed: Fri Oct 19 15:24:15 2012 -0700
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >>----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >>>  client/WEB-INF/web.xml                             |    9 ++-
> >> >>>  pom.xml                                            |   81
> >> >>>+++++++++++++++
> >> >>>  utils/conf/db.properties                           |    1 +
> >> >>>  utils/src/com/cloud/utils/events/EventBus.java     |    4 +-
> >> >>>  utils/src/com/cloud/utils/events/EventBusBase.java |    5 +-
> >> >>>  utils/src/com/cloud/utils/events/Subscriber.java   |    4 +-
> >> >>>  6 files changed, 99 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
> >> >>>
> >>----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >>
> >>>>>http://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-cloudstack/blob/8e
> >>>>>f9e
> >>>>>32
> >> >>>c
> >> >>>/client/WEB-INF/web.xml
> >> >>>
> >>----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >>> diff --git a/client/WEB-INF/web.xml b/client/WEB-INF/web.xml
> >> >>> index 50f2455..c6fd30f 100644
> >> >>> --- a/client/WEB-INF/web.xml
> >> >>> +++ b/client/WEB-INF/web.xml
> >> >>> @@ -20,7 +20,14 @@
> >> >>>      xsi:schemaLocation="http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaee
> >> >>>http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaee/web-app_2_5.xsd";
> >> >>>      version="2.5">
> >> >>>
> >> >>> -
> >> >>> +       <listener>
> >> >>> +
> >>
> >>>>><listener-
> class>org.springframework.web.context.ContextLoaderListen
> >>>>>er<
> >>>>>/l
> >> >>>i
> >> >>>stener-class>
> >> >>> +       </listener>
> >> >>> +    <context-param>
> >> >>> +        <param-name>contextConfigLocation</param-name>
> >> >>> +        <param-value>classpath:applicationContext.xml</param-
> value>
> >> >>> +    </context-param>
> >> >>> +
> >> >>>      <servlet>
> >> >>>          <servlet-name>cloudStartupServlet</servlet-name>
> >> >>>
> >> >>><servlet-class>com.cloud.servlet.CloudStartupServlet</servlet-clas
> >> >>>s>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >>
> >>>>>http://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-cloudstack/blob/8e
> >>>>>f9e
> >>>>>32
> >> >>>c
> >> >>>/pom.xml
> >> >>>
> >>----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >>> diff --git a/pom.xml b/pom.xml
> >> >>> index 3c14d4e..5f63ce6 100644
> >> >>> --- a/pom.xml
> >> >>> +++ b/pom.xml
> >> >>> @@ -79,6 +79,7 @@
> >> >>>      <cs.servlet.version>2.4</cs.servlet.version>
> >> >>>      <cs.jstl.version>1.2</cs.jstl.version>
> >> >>>
> >>
> >>>>><cs.selenium.server.version>1.0-
> 20081010.060147</cs.selenium.server
> >>>>>.ve
> >>>>>rs
> >> >>>i
> >> >>>on>
> >> >>> +
> >>
> >>>>><org.springframework.version>3.0.5.RELEASE</org.springframework.
> ver
> >>>>>sio
> >>>>>n>
> >> >>>      <skipTests>true</skipTests>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>    </properties>
> >> >>> @@ -169,6 +170,86 @@
> >> >>>        <version>${cs.junit.version}</version>
> >> >>>        <scope>test</scope>
> >> >>>      </dependency>
> >> >>> +
> >> >>> +       <dependency>
> >> >>> +         <groupId>org.springframework</groupId>
> >> >>> +         <artifactId>spring-core</artifactId>
> >> >>> +         <version>${org.springframework.version}</version>
> >> >>> +       </dependency>
> >> >>> +
> >> >>> +       <dependency>
> >> >>> +         <groupId>org.springframework</groupId>
> >> >>> +         <artifactId>spring-expression</artifactId>
> >> >>> +         <version>${org.springframework.version}</version>
> >> >>> +       </dependency>
> >> >>> +
> >> >>> +       <dependency>
> >> >>> +         <groupId>org.springframework</groupId>
> >> >>> +         <artifactId>spring-beans</artifactId>
> >> >>> +         <version>${org.springframework.version}</version>
> >> >>> +       </dependency>
> >> >>> +
> >> >>> +       <dependency>
> >> >>> +         <groupId>org.springframework</groupId>
> >> >>> +         <artifactId>spring-aop</artifactId>
> >> >>> +         <version>${org.springframework.version}</version>
> >> >>> +       </dependency>
> >> >>> +
> >> >>> +       <dependency>
> >> >>> +         <groupId>org.springframework</groupId>
> >> >>> +         <artifactId>spring-context</artifactId>
> >> >>> +         <version>${org.springframework.version}</version>
> >> >>> +       </dependency>
> >> >>> +
> >> >>> +       <dependency>
> >> >>> +         <groupId>org.springframework</groupId>
> >> >>> +         <artifactId>spring-context-support</artifactId>
> >> >>> +         <version>${org.springframework.version}</version>
> >> >>> +       </dependency>
> >> >>> +
> >> >>> +       <dependency>
> >> >>> +         <groupId>org.springframework</groupId>
> >> >>> +         <artifactId>spring-tx</artifactId>
> >> >>> +         <version>${org.springframework.version}</version>
> >> >>> +       </dependency>
> >> >>> +
> >> >>> +       <dependency>
> >> >>> +         <groupId>org.springframework</groupId>
> >> >>> +         <artifactId>spring-jdbc</artifactId>
> >> >>> +         <version>${org.springframework.version}</version>
> >> >>> +       </dependency>
> >> >>> +
> >> >>> +       <dependency>
> >> >>> +         <groupId>org.springframework</groupId>
> >> >>> +         <artifactId>spring-orm</artifactId>
> >> >>> +         <version>${org.springframework.version}</version>
> >> >>> +       </dependency>
> >> >>> +
> >> >>> +       <dependency>
> >> >>> +         <groupId>org.springframework</groupId>
> >> >>> +         <artifactId>spring-oxm</artifactId>
> >> >>> +         <version>${org.springframework.version}</version>
> >> >>> +       </dependency>
> >> >>> +
> >> >>> +       <dependency>
> >> >>> +         <groupId>org.springframework</groupId>
> >> >>> +         <artifactId>spring-web</artifactId>
> >> >>> +         <version>${org.springframework.version}</version>
> >> >>> +       </dependency>
> >> >>> +
> >> >>> +       <dependency>
> >> >>> +         <groupId>org.springframework</groupId>
> >> >>> +         <artifactId>spring-webmvc</artifactId>
> >> >>> +         <version>${org.springframework.version}</version>
> >> >>> +       </dependency>
> >> >>> +
> >> >>> +       <dependency>
> >> >>> +         <groupId>org.springframework</groupId>
> >> >>> +         <artifactId>spring-test</artifactId>
> >> >>> +         <version>${org.springframework.version}</version>
> >> >>> +         <scope>test</scope>
> >> >>> +       </dependency>
> >> >>> +
> >> >>>    </dependencies>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>    <build>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >>
> >>>>>http://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-cloudstack/blob/8e
> >>>>>f9e
> >>>>>32
> >> >>>c
> >> >>>/utils/conf/db.properties
> >> >>>
> >>----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >>> diff --git a/utils/conf/db.properties b/utils/conf/db.properties
> >> >>> index 6bdb6d6..8d98119 100644
> >> >>> --- a/utils/conf/db.properties
> >> >>> +++ b/utils/conf/db.properties
> >> >>> @@ -24,6 +24,7 @@ cluster.servlet.port=9090  # CloudStack
> >> >>> database settings  db.cloud.username=cloud
> >> >>> db.cloud.password=cloud
> >> >>> +db.root.password=
> >> >>>  db.cloud.host=localhost
> >> >>>  db.cloud.port=3306
> >> >>>  db.cloud.name=cloud
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >>
> >>>>>http://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-cloudstack/blob/8e
> >>>>>f9e
> >>>>>32
> >> >>>c
> >> >>>/utils/src/com/cloud/utils/events/EventBus.java
> >> >>>
> >>----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >>> diff --git a/utils/src/com/cloud/utils/events/EventBus.java
> >> >>>b/utils/src/com/cloud/utils/events/EventBus.java
> >> >>> index 4195acd..c1b6f70 100644
> >> >>> --- a/utils/src/com/cloud/utils/events/EventBus.java
> >> >>> +++ b/utils/src/com/cloud/utils/events/EventBus.java
> >> >>> @@ -17,9 +17,11 @@
> >> >>>
> >> >>>  package com.cloud.utils.events;
> >> >>>
> >> >>> +import java.io.Serializable;
> >> >>> +
> >> >>>  public interface EventBus {
> >> >>>         void subscribe(String subject, Subscriber subscriber);
> >> >>>         void unsubscribe(String subject, Subscriber subscriber);
> >> >>>
> >> >>> -       void publish(String subject, PublishScope scope, Object
> >>sender,
> >> >>>String args);
> >> >>> +       void publish(String subject, PublishScope scope, Object
> >>sender,
> >> >>>Serializable args);
> >> >>>  }
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >>
> >>>>>http://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-cloudstack/blob/8e
> >>>>>f9e
> >>>>>32
> >> >>>c
> >> >>>/utils/src/com/cloud/utils/events/EventBusBase.java
> >> >>>
> >>----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >>> diff --git a/utils/src/com/cloud/utils/events/EventBusBase.java
> >> >>>b/utils/src/com/cloud/utils/events/EventBusBase.java
> >> >>> index 0c135db..cd10f1d 100644
> >> >>> --- a/utils/src/com/cloud/utils/events/EventBusBase.java
> >> >>> +++ b/utils/src/com/cloud/utils/events/EventBusBase.java
> >> >>> @@ -17,6 +17,7 @@
> >> >>>
> >> >>>  package com.cloud.utils.events;
> >> >>>
> >> >>> +import java.io.Serializable;
> >> >>>  import java.util.ArrayList;
> >> >>>  import java.util.HashMap;
> >> >>>  import java.util.List;
> >> >>> @@ -72,7 +73,7 @@ public class EventBusBase implements EventBus
> {
> >> >>>
> >> >>>         @Override
> >> >>>         public void publish(String subject, PublishScope scope,
> >>Object
> >> >>>sender,
> >> >>> -               String args) {
> >> >>> +               Serializable args) {
> >> >>>
> >> >>>                 if(_gate.enter(true)) {
> >> >>>
> >> >>> @@ -283,7 +284,7 @@ public class EventBusBase implements
> EventBus {
> >> >>>                         _children.put(key, childNode);
> >> >>>                 }
> >> >>>
> >> >>> -               public void notifySubscribers(String subject, Object
> >> >>>sender, String args) {
> >> >>> +               public void notifySubscribers(String subject,
> >> >>> + Object
> >> >>>sender, Serializable args) {
> >> >>>                         for(Subscriber subscriber : _subscribers) {
> >> >>>
> >> >>>subscriber.onPublishEvent(subject,
> >> >>>sender, args);
> >> >>>                         }
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >>
> >>>>>http://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-cloudstack/blob/8e
> >>>>>f9e
> >>>>>32
> >> >>>c
> >> >>>/utils/src/com/cloud/utils/events/Subscriber.java
> >> >>>
> >>----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >>> diff --git a/utils/src/com/cloud/utils/events/Subscriber.java
> >> >>>b/utils/src/com/cloud/utils/events/Subscriber.java
> >> >>> index 7af283b..c3baa6f 100644
> >> >>> --- a/utils/src/com/cloud/utils/events/Subscriber.java
> >> >>> +++ b/utils/src/com/cloud/utils/events/Subscriber.java
> >> >>> @@ -17,6 +17,8 @@
> >> >>>
> >> >>>  package com.cloud.utils.events;
> >> >>>
> >> >>> +import java.io.Serializable;
> >> >>> +
> >> >>>  public interface Subscriber {
> >> >>> -       void onPublishEvent(String subject, Object sender, String
> >> >>>args);
> >> >>> +       void onPublishEvent(String subject, Object sender,
> >>Serializable
> >> >>>args);
> >> >>>  }
> >> >>>
> >> >
> >>
> >>

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