On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Noah Slater <nsla...@tumbolia.org> wrote: > It is not necessary to transfer anything. The domain can be privately > administered. In fact, the entire site could remain in private hands. Like > binary packages provided for convenience, we encourage the community to > provide resources. > > The problem for me is in what is considered the official homepage of the > project. What is your idea on that?
Noah - you raise some great questions. A couple of thoughts: First, the official homepage should be the apache project page. To me, there's nothing to gain but confusion if we do it any other way. Second, we've discussed the value of that existing site vs. a simpler site structure, and I thought we were in agreement (or at least partial concensus) that the "starting over" with a cleaner site would be a positive thing for the community. If that's not the case, I'll share my own perspective here: the current cloudstack.org site is confusing, and I'd like to see us start with a mostly clean slate. Third, I'd really like to see cloudstack.org transfered from Citrix to ASF. I think that would be a very positive step for Citrix to take, continuing to signal to this community that the larger ecosystem now truly owns the future of the project. Last, I'd really like to know where the CloudStack name and logo process are right now. I know it's in progress, but I think it's a related issue to the domain name registration and administration. -chip > On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 3:58 PM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote: > >> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 4:49 AM, Noah Slater <nsla...@tumbolia.org> wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > What are the current plans for cloudstack.org? Do we want to move this >> to >> > ASF infra? >> > >> >> So there are several complications. The first is all of the user >> information that is contained in the site - ~35,000 people have >> registered on the site and provided varying levels of information. >> Ranging from username and email address to name, location, employer, >> hypervisor, pictures of birthday parties etc. Transferring that >> information without explicit consent, even to an organization as noble >> as the ASF seems like a bad idea. >> This also is problematic from a content standpoint as I have no idea >> how to transfer all of the forum messages sans the link back to >> accounts, etc. >> >> Second - the site is a complex collection of Joomla atop Linux with >> plenty of Joomla modules - that's a tedious assembly exercise, and >> something that requires ongoing maintenance from a security >> perspective. I _think_ this is largely outsourced at the moment to a >> specialized Joomla contractor. >> >> Finally there's the issue of getting this up and running - it appears >> that it is a non-trivial amount of time and effort, and would likely >> require someone who is a committer to setup and maintain - and AFAIK >> no one has yet stepped up to do that work. >> >> So in summary - migrating the existing cs.o site to ASF infra is a lot >> of work, and much of the value of the existing site would be >> diminished with the loss of user data. Additionally no one has yet >> signed up to do that work. We could as Wido noted redirect that to >> the project site (http://incubator.apache.org/cloudstack), which is in >> SVN, content maintained by the project and underlying infrastructure >> maintained by ASF infra. >> >> And to answer Wido's other question - DNS for cs.o is still >> administered by several Citrix employees - at some point that will >> also need to migrate to the ASF. >> >> --David >> > > > > -- > NS
