> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.child...@sungard.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 11:23 AM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Install.sh vs. pacakge repos
> 
> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 11:45 AM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 8:23 AM, Wido den Hollander <w...@widodh.nl>
> wrote:
> >> On 09/11/2012 12:16 PM, Suresh Sadhu wrote:
> >>>
> >>> HI All,
> >>>
> >>> Installer fail to read the cloud packages  and MS installation on
> Ubuntu
> >>> 12.04 was not successful(No packages were installed) Raised a
> blocker bug.
> >>> Please find the issue details in the below mentioned issue:
> >>>
> >>
> >> I'd like to bring this up again, do we REALLY want this install.sh
> script?
> >
> >
> > This really deserves its own thread, because it won't receive the
> > attention it deserves in the original thread.
> >
> > I talked with infra about this a few weeks back, and while they said
> > they really wanted downstreams to package, they weren't vehemently
> > opposed to use creating our own repo, but we'd have to figure out how
> > to make it work with the mirror system.
> >
> > Personally - the packages as they exist are great for people doing a
> > first, small scale install, but it doesn't scale. While I am not
> > necessarily opposed to the installer, I also recognize the problems
> > from a real world deployment perspective.
> >
> > However, there is an impact, at a minimum all of our documentation
> > will need rewriting, so personally, I'd prefer that for 4.0.0 - that
> > we do repos if we can figure it out in time, and keep the installer
> as
> > an option as well.
> >
> > --David
> >
> 
> Thanks for starting the thread David (you beat me to it).
> 
> My thoughts:
> 
> Having downstream packagers is the way to go for official package
> distribution of the software for each OS.  However, I would like us to
> include the RPMs and DEB packages that we agreed to previously (Ubuntu
> 12.04 and RHEL/CentOS 6.2 and 6.3) as a binary distro via ASF
> infrastructure.  I'd also like us to include this install script
> (functionally working for its intended purpose) with the RPMs.  My
> thinking is similar to David's, in that it's easy to get started with
> that model.
> 
> I don't believe that the tarball that includes packages and the
> install script hurts more advanced installers at all, since we can
> have other methods of getting the packages (perhaps ALSO hosting the
> packages on public repos that use the ASF mirrors, or even on repos
> that aren't on ASF infrastructure).


Install from repository is more intuitive, just "yum/aptitude install *", can't 
be simple than this:)
The main problem of that install script is you can't automate the installation, 
need to manually type/select.
If we can get the public repos hosting on somewhere, which has good downloading 
speed, I am prefer the repository.

> 
> Just my thoughts...  looking for others to chime in.
> 
> -chip

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