Just want to clarify:

"We can add implementation of
SetupGuestNetworkCommand/SetNetworkACLCommand/SetSourceNatCommand/Site2SiteVpnCfgCommand
in VirtualRoutingResource."

So the Xen implementation of SetupGuestNetworkCommand is in
CitrixResourceBase.java, and the VMware one is in VmwareResource.java,
but you're saying I should put an implementation of these in
VirtualRoutingResource.java for KVM? Sorry, still trying to piece
together how everything relates.

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Edison Su <edison...@citrix.com> wrote:
> Yes, it is.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Marcus Sorensen [mailto:shadow...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 8:45 AM
>> To: Edison Su
>> Cc: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org; Anthony Xu; Kelven Yang;
>> Vijayendra Bhamidipati
>> Subject: VPC for KVM (was VM router spawning multiple public nics)
>>
>> I notice there's also an 'IpAssocVpcCommand', I'm assuming that should
>> be added to the list?
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Edison Su <edison...@citrix.com> wrote:
>> > You can find the VPC reference implementation from
>> CitrixResourceBase.java, which is the implementation for Xenserver.
>> Just take a look at how the VPC related commands are implemented.
>> > Take SetNetworkACLCommand as an example:
>> > The function execute(SetNetworkACLCommand cmd) in citrixResourceBase:
>> > 1. parse SetNetworkACLCommand
>> > 2. call scripts/vm/hypervisor/xenserver/vmops, function routerProxy
>> > 3. routerproxy will call scripts/network/domr/router_proxy.sh
>> > 4. router_proxy.sh will login into router vm, execute a shell script
>> inside router VM to program rules.
>> >
>> > In KVM, we can directly call router_proxy.sh or directly login into
>> router vm, we just need to prepare the parameters for this script.
>> > The reference code is in VirtualRoutingResource.java, all the network
>> related command(extended from NetworkElementCommand) will be redirected
>> to VirtualRoutingResource.
>> > We can add implementation of
>> SetupGuestNetworkCommand/SetNetworkACLCommand/SetSourceNatCommand/Site2
>> SiteVpnCfgCommand in VirtualRoutingResource.
>> >
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Marcus Sorensen [mailto:shadow...@gmail.com]
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 4:34 PM
>> >> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> >> Cc: Edison Su; Anthony Xu; Kelven Yang; Vijayendra Bhamidipati
>> >> Subject: Re: VM router spawning multiple public nics
>> >>
>> >> Great, thanks. I've already got a working implementation of
>> >> adding/removing nics from regular instances that I've been playing
>> >> with, so I'm getting vaguely familiar with the various data types
>> and
>> >> things surrounding the networking. I don't know if this is quite
>> >> within my reach just yet but I'll see how far I get.
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Alena Prokharchyk
>> >> <alena.prokharc...@citrix.com> wrote:
>> >> > On 8/29/12 1:34 PM, "Edison Su" <edison...@citrix.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>Hi Anthony & Alena,
>> >> >>   Could you help to provide information about VPC, how it works,
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Here is the functional spec on the feature:
>> >> >
>> >> > wiki.cloudstack.org/display/RelOps/Inter-
>> VLAN+Routing+functional+spec
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > VpcVirtualNetworkApplianceManagerImpl is the manager responsible
>> for
>> >> VPC
>> >> > Virtual router operations (plug/unplug nics, etc)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> which commands needed to implemented on the hypervisor side?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > 1) PlugNicCommand/UnplugNicCommand - does Nic hotplug/unplug
>> >> (currently
>> >> > works for VR vm only). In VPC called when add nic for Public/Guest
>> >> > networks.
>> >> > 2) SetupGuestNetworkCommand - sets up dhcp range, dns information,
>> >> > networkDomain information on the Nic to make it
>> >> > 3) SetNetworkACLCommand - creates network ACL on the virtual
>> router
>> >> > 4) SetSourceNatCommand - used for setting source nat on the Public
>> IP
>> >> on
>> >> > the VPC VR.
>> >> > 5) Site2SiteVpnCfgCommand - for setting up S2S VPN
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Anthony/Kelven/Vijay did implementation for Xen/vmWare resources,
>> >> they can
>> >> > help you answering all hypervisor related questions. If you need
>> more
>> >> > details on business logic + Vpc VR management, I can help with
>> that.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > -Alena.
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >>> From: Marcus Sorensen [mailto:shadow...@gmail.com]
>> >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 10:16 AM
>> >> >>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> >> >>> Subject: Re: VM router spawning multiple public nics
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I'd be willing to give it a shot if someone could point me in
>> the
>> >> >>> right direction and be available to answer questions.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Edison Su
>> <edison...@citrix.com>
>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >>> > Yah, KVM doesn't support VPC yet. Will you help to add VPC
>> >> support on
>> >> >>> KVM?:) Just implement a few VPC related commands...
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >>> >> From: Marcus Sorensen [mailto:shadow...@gmail.com]
>> >> >>> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 6:49 AM
>> >> >>> >> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> >> >>> >> Subject: Re: VM router spawning multiple public nics
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> I can confirm that the patch has fixed my particular issue.
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> This is likely unrelated and I think it doesn't even use the
>> >> same
>> >> >>> >> code, but I began to play with the VPC stuff a bit and
>> noticed
>> >> that
>> >> >>> I
>> >> >>> >> don't get any interfaces except for link local.  I'd probably
>> >> chalk
>> >> >>> >> that up to it not being ready for KVM, but I thought it was
>> >> worth a
>> >> >>> >> mention.  I'd be happy to try to help get it ready if someone
>> >> has
>> >> >>> time
>> >> >>> >> to nudge me in the right direction.
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Edison Su
>> >> <edison...@citrix.com>
>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >>> >> >> From: Marcus Sorensen [mailto:shadow...@gmail.com]
>> >> >>> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 2:00 PM
>> >> >>> >> >> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> >> >>> >> >> Subject: Re: VM router spawning multiple public nics
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >>  I thought about this solution myself, but below this
>> portion
>> >> of
>> >> >>> >> code
>> >> >>> >> >> it looks like it uses the hash map to determine which nic
>> >> number
>> >> >>> to
>> >> >>> >> >> add the IP to, so with multiple 'untagged' networks it
>> would
>> >> have
>> >> >>> no
>> >> >>> >> >> way of knowing which nicnum in the router corresponds with
>> >> the
>> >> >>> >> correct
>> >> >>> >> >> untagged vlan.
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >>                 nicNum =
>> >> vlanAllocatedToVM.get(ip.getVlanId());
>> >> >>> >> >>                 networkUsage(routerIp, "addVif", "eth" +
>> >> nicNum);
>> >> >>> >> >>                 result =
>> >> >>> >> >> _virtRouterResource.assignPublicIpAddress(routerName,
>> >> >>> >> >>                         routerIp, ip.getPublicIp(),
>> >> ip.isAdd(),
>> >> >>> >> >> ip.isFirstIP(),
>> >> >>> >> >>                         ip.isSourceNat(), ip.getVlanId(),
>> >> >>> >> >> ip.getVlanGateway(),
>> >> >>> >> >>                         ip.getVlanNetmask(),
>> >> >>> ip.getVifMacAddress(),
>> >> >>> >> >>                         ip.getGuestIp(), nicNum);
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> if ip.getVlanId() returns untagged (as it does on networks
>> >> with
>> >> >>> no
>> >> >>> >> >> vlan id), and we tried to put multiple untagged keys in
>> >> >>> >> >> vlanAllocatedToVM (as with multiple untagged networks), we
>> >> get
>> >> >>> the
>> >> >>> >> >> wrong nicNum, no?
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> > In the ipassoc case, if there are multiple untagged
>> networks,
>> >> all
>> >> >>> of
>> >> >>> >> them are use the same
>> >> >>> >> > Public bridge. Then multiple ip address will be added on
>> eth2
>> >> >>> inside
>> >> >>> >> router VM.
>> >> >>> >> > If it works physically, then it works.
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Edison Su
>> >> <edison...@citrix.com>
>> >> >>> >> wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >>> >> >> >> From: Marcus Sorensen [mailto:shadow...@gmail.com]
>> >> >>> >> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 1:40 PM
>> >> >>> >> >> >> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> >> >>> >> >> >> Subject: Re: VM router spawning multiple public nics
>> >> >>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> >> Yes, that looks like it would work for me, however
>> that's
>> >> not
>> >> >>> >> >> >> something that would ever make it into master, right?
>> >> >>> Essentially
>> >> >>> >> >> >> killing tagging for the public, private, and guest
>> traffic
>> >> >>> labels?
>> >> >>> >> >> >> There's also still the issue of not being able to
>> >> >>> differentiate
>> >> >>> >> >> >> between multiple untagged networks, if we wanted to add
>> an
>> >> IP
>> >> >>> to
>> >> >>> >> a
>> >> >>> >> >> >> router it might not know which untagged interface to
>> apply
>> >> it
>> >> >>> to.
>> >> >>> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> > Physically, all the "untagged" network will be created
>> on
>> >> >>> >> >> public/guest/private bridge(the name we put in
>> >> >>> >> >> private/public/guest.bridge.name in agent.properties").
>> >> >>> >> >> > Because, there is no way to create a new untagged bridge
>> by
>> >> >>> agent
>> >> >>> >> >> itself. Agent code only knows how to create a new
>> tagged(vlan)
>> >> >>> >> bridge.
>> >> >>> >> >> > So the fix should be pushed into master.
>> >> >>> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Edison Su
>> >> >>> <edison...@citrix.com>
>> >> >>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> From: Marcus Sorensen [mailto:shadow...@gmail.com]
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 12:23 PM
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> Subject: Re: VM router spawning multiple public nics
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I've
>> >> >>> reviewed
>> >> >>> >> this
>> >> >>> >> >> >> code
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> in a bit more detail, and it seems like it's
>> >> accomplishing
>> >> >>> the
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> following:
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> 1. get all network interfaces currently connected to
>> >> the
>> >> >>> >> running
>> >> >>> >> >> VM
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> (a.k.a vnet devices via libvirt)
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> 2. find out which vlans these network interfaces are
>> >> >>> bridged
>> >> >>> >> to,
>> >> >>> >> >> >> store
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> this in a hash map of vlan ids and nics
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> 3. get all ip addresses to be added to the VM
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> 4. for each ip, get the configured vlan id for the
>> ip,
>> >> >>> compare
>> >> >>> >> it
>> >> >>> >> >> to
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> the hash map of existing vlan ids and nics
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> 5. if the required vlan id is not found in the hash
>> map,
>> >> >>> >> create a
>> >> >>> >> >> >> new
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> nic
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> 6. assign the ip to the nic identified by the vlan
>> id
>> >> key
>> >> >>> in
>> >> >>> >> the
>> >> >>> >> >> >> hash
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> map
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> In this case, we're getting a vlan id returned in
>> step
>> >> 2
>> >> >>> for a
>> >> >>> >> >> >> bridged
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> nic whose network is defined as untagged in the
>> >> cloudstack
>> >> >>> db,
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> therefore in step 5 we never match as already having
>> a
>> >> nic
>> >> >>> for
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> 'untagged'. I wrote a big long response discussing
>> this
>> >> >>> issue,
>> >> >>> >> >> but
>> >> >>> >> >> >> as
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> I began to dig further I realized that aside from my
>> >> >>> >> particular
>> >> >>> >> >> case,
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> untagged vlans in general are just broken (for
>> example
>> >> they
>> >> >>> >> can't
>> >> >>> >> >> be
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> dealt with uniquely in the current IpAssocCommand
>> code,
>> >> >>> given
>> >> >>> >> the
>> >> >>> >> >> >> hash
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> map) and it would require more effort than I have
>> time
>> >> for
>> >> >>> now
>> >> >>> >> to
>> >> >>> >> >> >> make
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> things work. If the code were already in place to
>> >> >>> >> differentiate
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> between multiple untagged nics I think that fixing
>> my
>> >> >>> problem
>> >> >>> >> >> would
>> >> >>> >> >> >> be
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> trivial, but since its not, I'll just find an
>> >> alternative
>> >> >>> >> >> solution.
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> >> > The untagged network usually means "untagged", no
>> vlan
>> >> on
>> >> >>> the
>> >> >>> >> >> >> bridge...
>> >> >>> >> >> >> > In your case, the untagged network actually has
>> >> vlan(tagged)
>> >> >>> on
>> >> >>> >> >> the
>> >> >>> >> >> >> bridge, thus getting things confused.
>> >> >>> >> >> >> > Will this patch(http://pastebin.com/HJXzZwKp) work
>> for
>> >> you?
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 10:46 PM, Marcus Sorensen
>> >> >>> >> >> >> <shadow...@gmail.com>
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > ...
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >             Integer nicPos = 0;
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >             for (InterfaceDef nic : nics) {
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >                 if
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>
>> (nic.getBrName().equalsIgnoreCase(_linkLocalBridgeName))
>> >> {
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >
>> vlanAllocatedToVM.put("LinkLocal",
>> >> >>> >> nicPos);
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >                 } else {
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >                     String vlanId =
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> getVlanIdFromBridge(nic.getBrName());
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >                     if (vlanId != null) {
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >
>> vlanAllocatedToVM.put(vlanId,
>> >> >>> >> nicPos);
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >                     } else {
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >>> vlanAllocatedToVM.put(Vlan.UNTAGGED,
>> >> >>> >> >> >> nicPos);
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >                     }
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >                 }
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >                 nicPos++;
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >             }
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >             IpAddressTO[] ips =
>> cmd.getIpAddresses();
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >             int i = 0;
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >             String result = null;
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >             int nicNum = 0;
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >             for (IpAddressTO ip : ips) {
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >                 if
>> >> >>> >> >> (!vlanAllocatedToVM.containsKey(ip.getVlanId()))
>> >> >>> >> >> >> {
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >                     /* plug a vif into router */
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >                     VifHotPlug(conn, routerName,
>> >> >>> >> ip.getVlanId(),
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >                             ip.getVifMacAddress());
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> vlanAllocatedToVM.put(ip.getVlanId(),
>> >> >>> >> >> >> nicPos++);
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >                 }
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > ...
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > Looks like the getVlanIdFromBridge might be a bit
>> >> >>> misleading.
>> >> >>> >> I
>> >> >>> >> >> am
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > running my guest public traffic on a 'cloudbr470',
>> >> which
>> >> >>> is
>> >> >>> >> a
>> >> >>> >> >> >> bridge
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > to eth2.470, yet I configured this network as
>> >> 'untagged'
>> >> >>> >> >> because I
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > have a vlan 470 available on eth3 for cloudstack
>> to
>> >> >>> >> autoassign
>> >> >>> >> >> >> (eth3
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > is where all of my stuff will be autoassigned). So
>> >> I'm
>> >> >>> not
>> >> >>> >> 100%
>> >> >>> >> >> >> sure
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > yet what's going on here but it seems as though
>> the
>> >> above
>> >> >>> is
>> >> >>> >> >> not
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > setting any 'Vlan.UNTAGGED', since it finds a vlan
>> >> number
>> >> >>> >> for
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > eth2.470, but when it enumerates the IPs for the
>> >> router,
>> >> >>> it
>> >> >>> >> >> then
>> >> >>> >> >> >> runs
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > ip.getVlanId() and doesn't find a nic for the
>> >> untagged IP
>> >> >>> >> and
>> >> >>> >> >> >> creates
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > one.
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > I realize this is perhaps an uncommon case, but a
>> bug
>> >> >>> >> >> nonetheless.
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > I'll play with the code a bit and see if I can
>> come
>> >> up
>> >> >>> with
>> >> >>> >> a
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > solution. I'm thinking I can look at the nic's
>> >> broadcast
>> >> >>> URI
>> >> >>> >> >> and
>> >> >>> >> >> >> see
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > if it's supposed to be untagged, then add to
>> >> >>> >> vlanAllocatedToVM
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > appropriately, off the top of my head something
>> like:
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >                     String vlanId =
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> getVlanIdFromBridge(nic.getBrName());
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >                     if (vlanId != null &&
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>
>> > !nic.getBroadcastUri().toString().contains("untagged")
>> >> {
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >
>> vlanAllocatedToVM.put(vlanId,
>> >> >>> >> nicPos);
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >                     } else {
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >>> vlanAllocatedToVM.put(Vlan.UNTAGGED,
>> >> >>> >> >> >> nicPos);
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >                     }
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Edison Su
>> >> >>> >> >> <edison...@citrix.com>
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> Possible bug in in kvm code:
>> >> LibvirtComputingResource-
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >execute(IpAssocCommand cmd)-> VifHotPlug, which is
>> >> only
>> >> >>> place
>> >> >>> >> >> >> adding
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> nic into router vm.
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> Turn on agent log, then take a look what happened.
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> From: Marcus Sorensen
>> [mailto:shadow...@gmail.com]
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 5:10 PM
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> Subject: VM router spawning multiple public nics
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> I've got two zones running the same build of
>> >> cloudstack
>> >> >>> (a
>> >> >>> >> >> >> recent
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> copy
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> of master). One of them creates routers that
>> turn
>> >> into
>> >> >>> >> ugly
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> multi-headed beasts, and by that I mean that any
>> >> time I
>> >> >>> >> >> create a
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> port
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> forwarding or iptables rule for that router I
>> get a
>> >> new
>> >> >>> >> >> public
>> >> >>> >> >> >> NIC
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> with an identical IP address, I have an instance
>> >> with a
>> >> >>> >> few
>> >> >>> >> >> tens
>> >> >>> >> >> >> of
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> NICs.  My guess is that some script isn't
>> detecting
>> >> >>> that
>> >> >>> >> >> there's
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> already a NIC with the public IP on it.  It
>> looks
>> >> fine
>> >> >>> in
>> >> >>> >> the
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> database, there is only one public NIC defined
>> in
>> >> the
>> >> >>> nics
>> >> >>> >> >> table.
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> I'll troubleshoot it tomorrow, but if anyone
>> knows
>> >> >>> where I
>> >> >>> >> >> >> should
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> begin the headstart would be appreciated.
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> Thanks
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >

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