On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Wido den Hollander <w...@widodh.nl> wrote:
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>
> On 08/20/2012 11:32 PM, Chiradeep Vittal wrote:
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>> On 8/14/12 10:33 PM, "Chiradeep Vittal" <chiradeep.vit...@citrix.com>
>> wrote:
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>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/14/12 6:20 AM, "Chip Childers" <chip.child...@sungard.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm trying to kick off conversation with this thread...
>>>>
>>>> I know that people have been looking at the System VM licensing and
>>>> distribution issues from various angles, but I'm not sure we came to a
>>>> consensus on how to deal with the system VMs overall.
>>>>
>>>> AFAIK, we have two outstanding issues:
>>>>
>>>> 1 - We have a bunch of configuration / code in the patches folder of
>>>> our source tree that *may* have licensing issues.
>>>
>>>
>>> IANAL, but config files that do not have license text already should not
>>> have any issue?
>>> Especially since there is no other way to configure the software?
>>> About half the config files are original work (not derived), the rest can
>>> be supplied as patch files to the originals.
>>>
>>> Not sure that supplying patches is any different from distributing
>>> modified config files though.
>>>
>>>
>>>> 2 - We need to initiate a request to ASF Legal for permission to
>>>> distribute a system VM template (including the GPL OS and software)
>>>
>>> >from ASF infrastructure, OR figure out how the community can
>>>>
>>>> distribute valid system VMs outside of ASF.
>>>
>>>
>>> Wido has some good suggestions here:
>>> http://goo.gl/EuUoQ
>>>
>>>
>>> 1. Host convenience binaries on say Sourceforge
>>> 2. Supply the build script so that folks can build it themselves.
>>
>>
>> Following up from the IRC discussion:
>>
>> 1. Regarding license of configuration files, I have raised an issue with
>> Legal: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-146
>> 2. Regarding the iptables deb for fixing dhcp behavior for Ubuntu VMs, I
>> have a proposal:
>>     A. Since the system vm cannot be distributed, we will have to host it
>> as a convenience binary somewhere. This hosted version can certainly have
>> the DHCP fix
>>     B. For those who want to build the system vm from scratch, they will
>> not get the DHCP/iptables fix but are welcome to install the fix as a
>> post-build procedure.
>
>
> If they build the System VM from Ubuntu 12.04 they should have the DHCP fix
> already?
>
> I can't find the thread where this was discussed in.
>
> I still think we should make it easier for users to create a System VM. Like
> I already said ( http://goo.gl/EuUoQ ), we should generate a couple of DEB
> (or RPM) packages which you can install and turn your clean install into a
> System VM. Something I want to take a look at post-4.0
>
> Wido
>
>>
>> --
>> Chiradeep
>>
>

Have we asked whether the project can distribute systemVMs? I was
under the impression we couldn't until the conversations at OSCON. Now
I think it might be possible.

But naturally we can't distribute prohibited items in our source release.

--David

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