Thanks for the response.  So then my next question is how would this be 
achieved?  I can see creating a network for the db servers and set all db 
instances to use it as their default network, and attach the app servers _to_ 
the db network but then there would be no filtering occurring.  The app servers 
would have unrestricted access to the db servers.  How can I filter/control the 
traffic between app and db?

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From: Abhinandan Prateek [abhinandan.prat...@citrix.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 7:58 PM
To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: domr iptables rules

The app server VMs will reach the db VM via private address.

If you want external access to db too but with restrictions to certain 
subnets/ips that too can be achieved using port-forwarding and source cidrs 
option.

I believe that the advanced networking model is very flexible to support 
variations of deployments.

-Abhi


>-----Original Message-----
>From: Clayton Weise [mailto:cwe...@iswest.net]
>Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 3:58 AM
>To: 'cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org'
>Subject: RE: domr iptables rules
>
>So in this case are your app servers reaching the database servers via their
>public or private addresses?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Abhinandan Prateek [mailto:abhinandan.prat...@citrix.com]
>Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 9:05 AM
>To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>Subject: RE: domr iptables rules
>
>Why not a set of VMs running app server load balanced using VR.
>A VM running db (or probably  a set of VM running db in master-slave conf)
>with no external access but only via the app server VMs.
>I guess this is what you want ?
>
>-Abhi
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Clayton Weise [mailto:cwe...@iswest.net]
>>Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 9:00 PM
>>To: 'cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org'
>>Subject: RE: domr iptables rules
>>
>>It's something I have been toying with.  Basically it's a standard
>>app/db setup where the app servers would reside in a dmz and the db
>>servers would sit in a trusted network.  We need to limit the traffic
>>going between the app and the db servers in advanced networking.  So
>>currently the db and app servers have their own separate networks
>>(vlans) and their own virtual routers.  I was thinking of different
>>ways to limit the traffic from app to db to be permitted on specific ports.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Anthony Xu [mailto:xuefei...@citrix.com]
>>Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 4:33 PM
>>To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>Subject: RE: domr iptables rules
>>
>>It is better to do it through API. CloudStack already provides several
>>APIs for customer to add ACL for customer network, what kind of rules
>>do you want to add? Can you do it through current API? Or what kind API
>>you would like to add?
>>
>>Anthony
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Clayton Weise [mailto:cwe...@iswest.net]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 4:26 PM
>>> To: 'cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org'
>>> Subject: RE: domr iptables rules
>>>
>>> As a dirty hack would it be possible to create an init script which
>>> added these custom rules when the domr boots?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Anthony Xu [mailto:xuefei...@citrix.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 12:21 PM
>>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>> Subject: RE: domr iptables rules
>>>
>>> Iptables rules is not persistent inside domr, CloudStack send command
>>> to domr to generate rules on demand.
>>> So if you reboot domr, some rules may not come back. But if you
>>> reboot domr through Cloudstack UI, all rules should come back,
>>> Cloudstack will send commands to program rules again.
>>>
>>>
>>> Anthony
>>>
>>>
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Clayton Weise [mailto:cwe...@iswest.net]
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 10:09 AM
>>> > To: 'cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org'
>>> > Subject: domr iptables rules
>>> >
>>> > Where are these kept?  After rebooting a virtual router not all of
>>> the
>>> > firewall rules came back.  Also, I wanted to manually add a few
>>> things
>>> > and I was curious where I could do it and have those rules retained
>>> > when the domr reboots.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks

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