Only one quick bit of feedback – it's preferable to use test.check
facilities instead of (rand) because they're "repeatable": the seed emitted
in test.check output can be used to rerun the test with the same test.check
PRNG state (see the docstring on clojure.test.check/quick-check,
specifically the :seed option), but if you call out to other PRNGs, you
defeat that mechanism and you'll still get different results on different
runs. So here you might want to say (gen/elements [:head :tails]).

Cheers,
Michał


On 5 November 2016 at 11:59, dimitris <jimpil1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Alex,
>
> I think I've figured it out. Here is the complete solution I've come up
> with in case you feel like providing feedback:
>
> (defn- extract-sensible-k-gen
>   "Gen override for `::extract-args`."  []
>   (gen/bind    (spc/gen ::persistent-coll)
>     #(let [r (rand)
>            heads? (>= r 0.5)] ;; flip a coin       (gen/tuple         
> (gen/elements           (cond             (empty? %) (repeat 2 :NOT-FOUND) ;; 
> nothing can be possibly found in an empty coll             (map? %) (if heads?
>                         (keys %) ;; keys that will be found                   
>      (repeat 2 :NOT-FOUND)) ;; keys that will not be found             (set? 
> %) (if heads?
>                         % ;; elements                        (repeat 2 
> :NOT-FOUND))
>              (sequential? %) (let [c (count %)]
>                                (if heads? ;; index overrides                  
>                (if (> r 0.75)
>                                    (range c) ;;valid indices                  
>                  (concat (range -1 (dec (- c)) -1) ;; invalid (negative) 
> indices                                           (range c (+ c 10))))
>                                  (if (> r 0.25) ;; predicate overrides        
>                            (repeat 2 (constantly true))
>                                    (repeat 2 (constantly false)))))
>              ))
>          (gen/return %)))
>     ))
>
> ;======================================================================(spc/def
>  ::persistent-coll  (spc/or    :map (spc/map-of any? any?)
>     :vector (spc/coll-of any? :kind vector?)
>     :set (spc/coll-of any? :kind set?)
>     :list (spc/coll-of any? :kind list?)))
>
> (spc/def ::predicate  (spc/fspec :args (spc/cat :x any?)
>              :ret boolean?))
>
> (spc/def ::extract-args  (spc/cat :k (spc/or                :predicate 
> ::predicate                :key-or-index any?)
>            :coll ::persistent-coll))
>
> (spc/fdef enc/extract
>
>   :args ::extract-args  :ret (spc/tuple any? coll?)
>
>   :fn (spc/or        :some-found #(let [[e c] (:ret %)
>                            [coll-type arg-coll] (-> % :args :coll)]
>                       (and (some? e)
>                            (> (count arg-coll)
>                               (count c))
>                            #_(do (println "SOME-FOUND - cret=" c "argc=" 
> arg-coll \newline (-> % :args :k second))                               true) 
>                           ))
>         :nil-found #(let [[e c] (:ret %)
>                           [coll-type arg-coll] (-> % :args :coll)]
>                      (and (nil? e)
>                           (> (count arg-coll)
>                              (count c))
>                           #_(do (println "NIL-FOUND - cret=" c "argc=" 
> arg-coll \newline (-> % :args :k second))                              true)  
>                         ))
>         :not-found #(let [[e c] (:ret %)
>                           [coll-type arg-coll] (-> % :args :coll)]
>                      (and (nil? e)
>                           (= arg-coll c)
>                           #_(do (println "NOT-FOUND - cret=" c "argc=" 
> arg-coll \newline (-> % :args :k second))                              true)  
>                         )))
>   )
>
>  and i call it like so:
>
> (-> (test/check `treajure.encore/extract {:gen {::extract-args 
> extract-sensible-k-gen}})
>     test/summarize-results
>
> I must say, i was surprised to see that my humble 8G-ram laptop can barely
> deal with the default number of generative tests (1000), but at least it
> works :).
>
> Many thanks again, for redirecting me to Stu's video - it all made much
> more sense after digesting that.
>
> Regards,
>
> Dimitris
>
> On 04/11/16 00:14, dimitris wrote:
>
> HI Alex,
>
> Many thanks for your response, it was very helpful. I see your point about
> customizing the generator, and in fact the video in the link does something
> sort of similar to what I am trying to. So yeah I'll figure it out tomorrow
> :). Thanks again!
>
> Dimitris
>
> On 03/11/16 18:53, Alex Miller wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thursday, November 3, 2016 at 1:12:39 PM UTC-5, Jim foo.bar wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I'm starting to get familiar with clojure.spec, and in my very first spec
>> I needed to specify relationship between the args themselves (similar to
>> how :fn specs allow for specifying some relationship between :args & :ret).
>> Is that at all possible?
>>
>
> :fn is the best way to do this (specifying a relationship either between
> args or between an arg and ret)
>
>
>> Here is my use-case for the sake of argument:
>>
>> (defn extract
>>   "Analogous to `clojure.core/get`, but returns a vector of `[item-at-k, 
>> coll-without-k]`.   For Sequential things <k> can be an integer (the index), 
>> or a predicate.   In case of a predicate, the first item that satisfies it 
>> will be extracted."  [k coll]
>>   ...)
>>
>> The implementation is quite simple but irrelevant for my question and
>> therefore omitted. Here are some sample invocations:
>>
>> (extract :a {:a 1 :b 2}) => [1 {:b 2}]
>>
>> (extract :a #{:a :b}) => [:a #{:b}]
>>
>> (extract 1 [:a :b :c]) => [:b [:a :c]]
>>
>> (extract (partial = b) [:a :b :c]) => [:b [:a :c]] ;; same as above
>>
>> (extract 3 [:a :b :c]) => [nil [:a :b :c]] ;; nothing found
>>
>> And here is my attempt at spec-ing this:
>>
>> (spc/def ::predicate  (spc/fspec :args (spc/cat :x any?)
>>              :ret boolean?))
>>
>> (spc/fdef extract
>>
>>   :args (spc/cat :value (spc/alt                      :index nat-int?
>>                           ;:key any?  FIXME:                          
>> :predicate ::predicate                          )
>>                  :coll coll?)
>>
>>   :ret (spc/tuple any? coll?)
>>
>>   :fn (spc/or        :some-found #(let [[e c] (:ret %)
>>                            arg-coll (-> % :args :coll)]
>>                       (and (some? e)
>>                            (> (count arg-coll)
>>                               (count c))))
>>         :nil-found #(let [[e c] (:ret %)
>>                           arg-coll (-> % :args :coll)]
>>                      (and (nil? e)
>>                           (> (count arg-coll)
>>                              (count c))))
>>         :not-found #(let [[e c] (:ret %)
>>                           arg-coll (-> % :args :coll)]
>>                      (and (nil? e)
>>                           (= arg-coll c))))
>>   )
>>
>>
>> So, as you can probably see, there are 2 problems with this:
>>
>> 1) Even though, I've verified that ::predicate gens correct predicates
>> (via `s/exercise`), when i try to gen-test it, it finds predicates which
>> are causing `extract` to return something like `[x (x)]` (where x can be
>> anything). So, it seems that there exist predicates that cause `extract` to
>> find the item, but not remove it from coll. This is something that i can't
>> reproduce manually!
>>
>
> Is the info on the failing example in this case not sufficient enough to
> determine the failing case? I think it's worth at least considering the
> possibility that your code has a bug. :) Maybe the info is not sufficient,
> but I can judge without seeing the output and the actual code.
>
>
>> 2) You may have noticed a `FIXME` in the :args spec. I would like to
>> enumerate the 3 possible/logical types of `:value (nat-int? or ::predicate
>> for sequentials, but `any?` for maps/sets).
>>
>
> I don't think it's a good idea to separate the nat-int? and any? cases - I
> would just use any? in this case. The key here (and really everywhere
> you're writing an arg spec) is to try to state the truth as much as you
> can. The truth here is that anything can be a key (even though there is an
> identifiable case where the keys happen to be ints).
>
>
>> If i uncomment what i currently have i can see that gen-testing will
>> eventually mix something that is not an index nor a ::predicate (e.g. a
>> string) with something sequential, which is not supposed to happen.
>>
>> So basically I'm stuck with this. If i comment out the `:predicate
>> ::predicate` entry, then it passes gen-testing, but actually it has only
>> really tested 1/3 of the possible intended usages. :( Ok, you might say
>> that integers are perfectly valid keys in maps or elements in sets, and so
>> perhaps one could claim that 2/3 have been tested. Is there any way of
>> fully spec-ing this fn, or should i just stick to a good doc-string and
>> manually crafted test-cases?
>>
>
> You should definitely spec it! But this is a case where a custom generator
> is called for - in particular one that takes into account a better model
> for the inputs to the function. Stu Halloway did a whole screencast on this
> at
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoFkhE92fqc and I would recommend fully
> understanding that approach. The gist is that instead of generating the key
> to find and the collection independently, you want to instead create a
> model of multiple cases. When you're trying to model the case where a key
> is found, don't generate it randomly - instead generate the coll, and use
> one of its keys.
>
> Hope that helped.
>
>
>> Thanks in advance - any feedback is greatly appreciated :)
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Dimitris
>>
>>
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