I'm not sure I fully understand your proposal, but when I really need lazy 
evaluation (which is pretty rare) I reach for `delay` and `force`.

On Tuesday, 26 April 2016 16:41:08 UTC+1, Olek wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> In short:
>
> I have noticed that in most cases I use macros only for lazy arguments 
> evaluation. Why not to make something to use only this feature? It would be 
> light version of macro for clojurescript/clojure and easy to grasp for 
> newcomers and still powerful in programming (with that you could implement 
> binding/scopes/interpreter pattern). I love implicite use of macros where 
> from call point of view the user can't distinguish what is function and 
> what is macro. 
>
> In long:
>
> Generally the macros are used in compile phase to manipulate AST (or just 
> data structures because Clojure is homoiconic) to produce code in order to 
> be consumed in evaluation phase.
> It is nice to include new language constructs with use of macros but as my 
> experience points out for most time I use macros only for changing 
> evaluation moment/order.
> Maybe there should be some construct like "defnlazy" for which you write 
> normal function but all input arguments are evaluated only when you 
> explicitly evaluate them.
> What we gain? We don't have to deal with # ` @ list eval and separate 
> thoughts on read/eval phases, but we still must explicitly say ~ to deref 
> passed block of construct as argument.
>
> Also there are some problems to grasp:
> - is it safe to implicite convert blocks of construct from statements to 
> deref objects
> - how it should behave when you pass not deref object to another discussed 
> "defnlazy"
> - maybe there shouldn't be any defnlazy but you should just implement it 
> in arguments destruction so you can use constructs like:
>
> (defn mycrazyif [ statement ~onsuccess ~onfailure ]
>    (if statement   ; just evalutated with mycrazyif call
>      @onsucess ; deref block in case of success 
>           @onfailure)) ; deref block in case of failure
>
>
> With regards,
> Olek
>

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