I just released version 0.3.0 of Relational Mapper. Customization of keys 
and foreign keys is done now, as well as possibility to specify relation 
with a different name than the corresponding table 
(https://github.com/netizer/relational_mapper#different-name-of-an-association-than-a-table-name).
 


@Oliver George: your example with SupervisorId, AnalystId would work now, 
but have in mind that postgreSQL by default lowercases column names, so I'd 
still recommend supervisor_id and analyst_id. 

Cheers,
Krzysiek 

On Tuesday, March 1, 2016 at 11:35:46 PM UTC+1, Oliver George wrote:
>
>
> Both those ideas seem sensible to me.  Look foward to hearing more.
>
> On Tuesday, 1 March 2016 23:38:43 UTC+11, Krzysiek Herod wrote:
>>
>> I went through the paper very briefly, so I might be wrong, but from the 
>> first look it seems like the algorithm would generate the actual SQL 
>> queries . If so, although the idea seems interesting, I wouldn't go in this 
>> direction because of the loss of flexibility for the user of the library. 
>> For example sometimes it happens, that the slowest SQL query called by the 
>> application is the one where database picked a sub-optimal index, or 
>> sometimes combining data by adding one more join has a great performance 
>> impact. 
>>
>> Actually I was thinking about giving the programmer more flexibility, and 
>> maybe splitting the whole code into query part and stitch part, so the 
>> developer would choose the most efficient queries, but the stitching part 
>> would put all those data together (with deep result structure). I'm curious 
>> what do you think about this direction. I'll comment on your issue (
>> https://github.com/netizer/relational_mapper/issues/3) with more details 
>> about the idea.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Krzysiek
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 6:03 AM, Oliver George <oli...@condense.com.au> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Awesome, thanks.
>>>
>>> I did a little research last night looking for techniques for turning 
>>> recursive queries into efficient SQL queries.  I came across an interesting 
>>> paper:
>>>
>>> Cheney, James, Sam Lindley, and Philip Wadler. "Query shredding: 
>>> Efficient relational evaluation of queries over nested multisets (extended 
>>> version)."*arXiv preprint arXiv:1404.7078* (2014).
>>>
>>>
>>> The details are obscured behind some intimidating equations but the 
>>> concept seems pretty simple: The nested query gets normalised and then 
>>> shredded into a set of sql queries and the results of those queries are 
>>> stitched back together.
>>>
>>> There seem to be two version 
>>> <https://scholar.google.com.au/scholar?hl=en&q=Query+shredding%3A+Efficient+relational+evaluation+of+queries+over+nested+multisets+%28extended+version%29&btnG=&as_sdt=1%2C5&as_sdtp=>
>>>  
>>> of the paper.  This one looks to be more detailed  (26 pages):
>>>
>>> https://scholar.google.com/citations?view_op=view_citation&hl=en&user=Iz-3VFQAAAAJ&sortby=pubdate&citation_for_view=Iz-3VFQAAAAJ:9pM33mqn1YgC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, 29 February 2016 21:06:23 UTC+11, Krzysiek Herod wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks a lot for detailed notes.
>>>>
>>>> The problem with customization of foreign keys is on my TODO list. I 
>>>> hope to fix that before releasing version 1.0. That would solve the 
>>>> problem 
>>>> with SupervisorId and AnalystId. 
>>>>
>>>> What you said about deeper result structure (race -> meeting -> venue) 
>>>> is very inspiring. You can't do that with this library (you can fetch 
>>>> records with their - potentially indirect - relations, but those relations 
>>>> won't have own relations included), but definitely it's something worth 
>>>> considering. I added it to my TODO list in the README but I don't have a 
>>>> clear idea about how to do it well yet. 
>>>>
>>>> Cheers, 
>>>> Krzysiek
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 12:54:31 PM UTC+8, Oliver George wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Oops, one more.
>>>>>
>>>>> There was also a Users table (Id, Username, ...)
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't see a way to handle join from Races to Users based on 
>>>>> SupervisorId and AnalystId.  
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, 29 February 2016 15:52:48 UTC+11, Oliver George wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the details.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did a little experimenting and it works as advertised.  Notes below 
>>>>>> show what I did and found.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was interested to see if this might be suitable as a simple om.next 
>>>>>> remote for a relational database.  Potentially fanciful but it's a topic 
>>>>>> of 
>>>>>> interest for me at the moment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I used an existing database so I had a semi interesting dataset to 
>>>>>> play with.  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Races (Id, RaceNumber, RaceTime, MeetingId, SupervisorId, 
>>>>>> AnalystId...)
>>>>>> Meetings (Id, MeetingDate, MeetingTypeId, VenueId, JurisdictionId, 
>>>>>> ...)
>>>>>> Venues (Id, Name)
>>>>>> Jurisdiction (Id, Name, Code)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The table and foreign key naming conventions didn't match so I 
>>>>>> created views for each table.  If that was configurable then you'd open 
>>>>>> yourself to a wider audience.  (e.g. MeetingId vs meetings_id)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It was easy to setup some associations
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (def associations
>>>>>>   {:meeting {:race         :has-many
>>>>>>              :jurisdiction :belongs-to
>>>>>>              :venue        :belongs-to}
>>>>>>    :race    {:meeting      :belongs-to
>>>>>>              :jurisdiction [:through :meeting :belongs-to]}
>>>>>>    :venue   {}})
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My queries all worked as expected.  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (find-one db-state :meeting #{:race} [[:= :meeting.id 5617]])
>>>>>> (find-one db-state :meeting #{:venue} [[:= :meeting.id 5617]])
>>>>>> (find-one db-state :race #{:meeting :jurisdiction} [[:= :race.id 
>>>>>> 42792]])
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I couldn't see how I might pull data which requires three levels of 
>>>>>> information (e.g. race -> meeting -> venue).  I didn't dig deep enough 
>>>>>> to 
>>>>>> be sure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Incidentally, in case you haven't come across the datomic pull 
>>>>>> inspired om.next remote pull syntax this is what it might look like:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [{:meeting [:race]}]
>>>>>> (find-one db-state :meeting #{:race} [])
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [({:meeting [:race]} [:= :meeting.id 5617])]
>>>>>> (find-one db-state :meeting #{:race} [[:= :meeting.id 5617]])
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [{:meeting [:venue]}]
>>>>>> (find-one db-state :meeting #{:venue} [[:= :meeting.id 5617]])
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [{:race [{:meeting [{:venue :jurisdiction}]}]}]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not prettier necessarily but allows for composing multiple queries 
>>>>>> into a request and for drilling deeper into available data.  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cheers, Oliver
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, 28 February 2016 20:02:15 UTC+11, Krzysiek Herod wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Oliver for the feedback, 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> actually I came up with the idea of relational_mapper while working 
>>>>>>> on a project in which I had one "data-model" that contained all the 
>>>>>>> database related information, but the database related code contained a 
>>>>>>> lot 
>>>>>>> of features, and I really like working with small, focused clojure 
>>>>>>> libraries, so in the end relational_mapper is as small as I could think 
>>>>>>> of 
>>>>>>> it. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also as you can see in this commit: 
>>>>>>> https://github.com/netizer/relational_mapper/commit/6b4d79f92570bf723e4092d329978d484c01d2ab#diff-2b44df73d826687086fd1972295f8bd0L8
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> I actually was storing both: relations and fields in the same 
>>>>>>> structure, 
>>>>>>> but I changed that because I needed "fields" only for migrations that I 
>>>>>>> used in tests, and because the whole structure was unnecessarily 
>>>>>>> complex 
>>>>>>> (it was much easier to make mistake modifying the fields/associations 
>>>>>>> structure). 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Relational Mapper is meant only for reading data because whenever I 
>>>>>>> tried to use complex structures to write data, I was unhappy with the 
>>>>>>> result (often you have to update indexes of related records after one 
>>>>>>> of 
>>>>>>> them - with auto-increment field - is created, and there is a problem 
>>>>>>> of 
>>>>>>> determining if the related record has to be created or updated).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I didn't write compare/contrast points because I couldn't find 
>>>>>>> similar libraries in clojure. I mentioned ActiveRecord in README mostly 
>>>>>>> because of the wording in types of relations, but even ActiveRecord is 
>>>>>>> very 
>>>>>>> far from Relational Mapper (it's much bigger, and has features that go 
>>>>>>> way 
>>>>>>> beyond simple relational mapping). 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks again, 
>>>>>>> Krzysiek
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sunday, February 28, 2016 at 10:54:57 AM UTC+8, Oliver George 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Seems pretty nice to me.  Like a light weight version of the 
>>>>>>>> Django's migrate and queryset features which build on model 
>>>>>>>> definitions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It seems like this would allow me to define a database schema 
>>>>>>>> (tables, relations and fields) as data and use it to both create the 
>>>>>>>> database and run select/insert/update/delete queries against it.  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is that your intention for the library?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've not explored the options in this space before.  It might be 
>>>>>>>> good to have a section in the README pointing out to other related 
>>>>>>>> tools 
>>>>>>>> with some compare/contrast points.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Friday, 26 February 2016 17:51:10 UTC+11, Krzysiek Herod wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I created Relational Mapper, for situations where there is a 
>>>>>>>>> relational database with certain amount of relations between tables 
>>>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>>>> it's just not cool to fetch data from each table separately nor to 
>>>>>>>>> write 
>>>>>>>>> custom code for each such project so, with this library, you can just 
>>>>>>>>> call: 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (find_all db-state :posts #{:authors :attachments} [:= post.id 1])
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and assuming you have appropriate relations between these tables, 
>>>>>>>>> you'll get:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> {:posts {:title "Christmas"
>>>>>>>>>          :body "Merry Christmas!"
>>>>>>>>>          :id 1
>>>>>>>>>          :authors_id 10
>>>>>>>>>          :authors {:name "Rudolf" :id 10}
>>>>>>>>>          :attachments [{:name "rudolf.png" :id 100 :posts_id 1}
>>>>>>>>>                        {:name "santa.png" :id 101 :posts_id 1}]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The code is here: https://github.com/netizer/relational_mapper
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please, guys, let me know what do you think, and if you have any 
>>>>>>>>> ideas about improvements. If somebody would be so kind to take a look 
>>>>>>>>> at 
>>>>>>>>> the code, it would be awesome to read some feedback.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Krzysiek HerĂ³d
>>>>>>>>>
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