Interesting. I think it makes sense in that `dissoc` is a function for 
removing a kv pair from a map, not a function for setting v to nil given a 
k. I could definitely see tripping up on this though.

On Friday, February 19, 2016 at 8:07:16 AM UTC-8, Alex Miller wrote:
>
> You can find some of the background for this at 
> http://clojure.org/reference/datatypes. Records are intended to capture 
> "application domain information" - where the fields are known. Dissoc'ing 
> means you are removing not just a value, but the whole "field", and the 
> implication here is that you devolve from a thing of that "type" to a plain 
> map. Similarly, "empty" is not implemented on records (because you then 
> remove all the "fields").
>
> This is an intentional choice made by Rich in the design of records. I 
> think it's reasonable to argue that this creates some surprises in the use 
> of records - particularly in dissoc and empty. Afaik there is no plan for 
> this behavior to change, however.
>
>
>
> On Friday, February 19, 2016 at 8:30:47 AM UTC-6, Stig Brautaset wrote:
>>
>>
>> Dissoc behaviour on records really surprised me: 
>>
>>     user> (defrecord Foo [bar]) 
>>     ;; => user.Foo 
>>     user> (def foo (->Foo nil)) 
>>     ;; => #'user/foo 
>>     user> (dissoc foo :bar) 
>>     ;; => {} 
>>     user> (assoc foo :bar nil) 
>>     ;; => #user.Foo{:bar nil} 
>>
>> It lead to a bug where a component of mine, which I was using to 
>> dispatch in a multimethod was replaced with an empty map: 
>>
>>
>> https://github.com/stig/accounts/commit/f4124b69cfc9fdc201b29f97e33a5b7bd6279e7f
>>  
>>
>> *toy project alert* 
>>
>> As an aside, I'm now starting to understand why all the components 
>> examples use `assoc foo :bar nil` rather than dissoc... 
>>
>> Stig 
>>
>>

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