Who is saving these strings, and who is reading them? Do you have complete 
control over both apps, or does one of them need to be aligned with the 
other?

If the Java app is the baseline, you need to know the exact details of the 
format of the data it saves. Just knowing "it's JSON" is not enough, 
because there may be other data types (e.g. dates) that don't have native 
JSON representations. (The go-to JSON de/encoder for clojure is 
cheshire: https://github.com/dakrone/cheshire )

I took a quick look at Jedis and the easy, default way of using it is with 
strings. It will encode strings to UTF-8 before sending to Redis and decode 
from UTF-8 on read. You can set raw byte arrays too (which will not be 
altered in any way before sending), but it's not clear to me how it can 
read out raw byte arrays. (I'm sure there's a way, but it's not immediately 
obvious.)

As for the escaped quotes, you may be using pr or prn to print, or maybe 
you are using pr-str to produce the string representation. I can't be sure. 

On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 5:31:27 PM UTC-5, gingers...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> And I have another stupid question. Using the above code, I am sometimes 
> getting strings in Redis that have escaped quotation marks, like this:
>
> " \"transaction-id\" : \" 1ec47c2e-21ee-427c-841c-80a0f89f55d7 \"  
> \"debrief\" :  \" Susan Hilly at Citi called to get a quotation for 
> discounted weekly car rental for approximately 3 cars per week, or 150 
> rentals annually. \"  "
>
> Why is that happening? 
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 5:38:20 PM UTC-4, gingers...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>>
>> Francis Avila, 
>>
>> Thank you for your response. The Java app is using Jedis and the Clojure 
>> app is using Carmine. I'm wondering if you can suggest what you think would 
>> be the easiest way to allow these 2 apps to understand each other's strings?
>>
>> You were correct about how unsafe the above code was. I tested it for 
>> less than 15 minutes and ran into the fact that a \n newline made a mess of 
>> everything. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 5:15:35 PM UTC-4, Francis Avila wrote:
>>>
>>> You are running into Carmine's automatic nippy serialization. 
>>> https://github.com/ptaoussanis/carmine#serialization
>>>
>>> Redis only stores byte arrays (what it calls "strings"). Carmine uses 
>>> the nippy library (the meaning of "NPY" in your byte stream) to represent 
>>> rich types compactly as bytes. https://github.com/ptaoussanis/nippy
>>>
>>> If you give Carmine a byte array to store, it will store it directly 
>>> without nippy-encoding it. E.g. (.getBytes "{}" "UTF-8")
>>>
>>> BTW your document-as-string example is extremely unsafe: how will you 
>>> reliably read this message out again? e.g. what if the 'debrief' string 
>>> contains a single quote? Use a proper serialization format.
>>>
>>> So the key is to have both your Clojure and Java app store *bytes* in 
>>> Redis using the same serialization. You can store anything you want (nippy, 
>>> utf-8-encoded json, fressian, bson, utf-8 xml, utf-16 java strings, 
>>> whatever) as long as it's bytes and it's read and written the same way in 
>>> all your apps.
>>>
>>> The Redis library your Java app is using may have its own automatic 
>>> de/serialization, too. You need to find out what it's doing and either work 
>>> with this or turn it off, just like with Carmine.
>>>
>>> Nippy unfortunately does not have a Java API out of the box:  
>>> https://github.com/ptaoussanis/nippy/issues/66
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 3:35:49 PM UTC-5, gingers...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am not sure if this is a Clojure question or a Java question. I don't 
>>>> know Java, so I could use whatever help folks can offer. 
>>>>
>>>> "primitive string" here means what I can write when I am at the 
>>>> terminal.
>>>>
>>>> We have 2 apps, one in Clojure, one in Java. They talk to each other 
>>>> via Redis. I know the Java app can read stuff out of Redis, using our 
>>>> "transaction-id", if I use the terminal and open up "redis-clj" and write 
>>>> a 
>>>> string directly from the terminal. But I have this Clojure code, which 
>>>> depends on Peter Taoussanis's Carmine library:
>>>> (defn worker [document]
>>>>   {:pre [(string? (:transaction-id document))]}
>>>>   (let [transaction-id  (:transaction-id document)
>>>>         document-as-string (str "{'transaction-id' : '" transaction-id 
>>>> "', 'debrief' : '" (:debrief document) "'}" )
>>>>         redis-connection {:pool {} :spec {:host "127.0.0.1" :port 6379 
>>>> }}]
>>>>     (timbre/log :trace " message we will send to NLP  " 
>>>> document-as-string)
>>>>     (carmine/wcar redis-connection (carmine/set transaction-id 
>>>> document))
>>>>     (loop [document-in-redis (carmine/wcar redis-connection 
>>>> (carmine/get transaction-id))]
>>>>
>>>>       (if-not (.contains (first document-in-redis) "processed")
>>>>         (recur (carmine/wcar redis-connection (carmine/get 
>>>> transaction-id)))
>>>>         (do
>>>>           (carmine/wcar redis-connection (carmine/del transaction-id))
>>>>           document-in-redis)))))
>>>>  
>>>> This line in particular, I have tried doing this several ways: 
>>>>
>>>>         document-as-string (str "{'transaction-id' : '" transaction-id 
>>>> "', 'debrief' : '" (:debrief document) "'}" )
>>>>
>>>> In Redis, I expect to see: 
>>>>
>>>> {'transaction-id' : '42e574e7-3b80-424a-b9ff-01072f1e0358', 'debrief' : 
>>>> 'Smeek Hallie of Withers, Smeg, Harrington and Norvig responded to our 
>>>> proposal and said his company is read to move forward. The rate of $400 
>>>> per 
>>>> ton of shredded paper was acceptable to them, and they shred about 2 tons 
>>>> of documents every month. $96,000 in potential revenue annually. I will 
>>>> meet with him tomorrow and we will sign the contract.'}
>>>>
>>>> But if I then launch redis-cli, I see: 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 127.0.0.1:6379> keys *
>>>> 1) "42e574e7-3b80-424a-b9ff-01072f1e0358"
>>>>
>>>> 127.0.0.1:6379> get "42e574e7-3b80-424a-b9ff-01072f1e0358"
>>>> "\x00>NPY\b\x00\x00\x01\xfc\xf1\xfe\x1b\x00\x00\x00\nj\nip-addressi\x0e165.254.84.238j\x05tokeni$46b87d64-cff3-4b8b-895c-e089ac59544dj\x0bapi-versioni\x02v1j\x0etransaction-idi$42e574e7-3b80-424a-b9ff-01072f1e0358j\adebrief\r\x00\x00\x01YSmeek
>>>>  
>>>> Hallie of Withers, Smeg, Harrington and Norvig responded to our proposal 
>>>> and said his company is rea-\x00\xf1\x06move forward. The 
>>>> raty\x00\xf0\x0c$400 per ton of shredded pa\x16\x00\xf1\bwas acceptable to 
>>>> them,q\x00Bthey0\x00\x80 about 2E\x00\x10sF\x00\xf1Ldocuments every month. 
>>>> $96,000 in potential revenue annually. I will meet with him 
>>>> tomorrow{\x00\"we#\x00@sign\x92\x00\xa0 contract."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't know what all of those extra characters are. The Java app is 
>>>> not picking this item up, so I assume the Java app is not seeing this as a 
>>>> string. I expected this to look the same as if I had written this at the 
>>>> terminal: 
>>>>
>>>> {'transaction-id' : '42e574e7-3b80-424a-b9ff-01072f1e0358', 'debrief' : 
>>>> 'Smeek Hallie of Withers, Smeg, Harrington and Norvig responded to our 
>>>> proposal and said his company is read to move forward. The rate of $400 
>>>> per 
>>>> ton of shredded paper was acceptable to them, and they shred about 2 tons 
>>>> of documents every month. $96,000 in potential revenue annually. I will 
>>>> meet with him tomorrow and we will sign the contract.'}
>>>>
>>>> I assume it is easy to get a string into a format that can be 
>>>> understood by both a Clojure app and a Java app. I don't care what format 
>>>> that is, but it needs to be consistent. 
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone make suggestions about what I can do to make sure the 
>>>> Clojure app and the Java app both write to Redis using a format that the 
>>>> other will understand? In particular, both apps need to see the 
>>>> "'transaction-id". 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

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