On 6 May 2015 at 21:58, Alex Miller <a...@puredanger.com> wrote:

> I would have to say that the biggest surprise is how little they're needed
> in Clojure. The combination of immutable data, functions to update complex
> data structures, and fast pure function updates with atoms actually
> satisfies a large percentage of real use cases.
>

I'll echo this. I've been using Clojure for years, and I can't recall ever
needing refs (or agents for that matter).

- James

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